Re: [Masque] Andrew Alston's No Objection on draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp-14: (with COMMENT)

David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 16 June 2022 19:43 UTC

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From: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 12:43:43 -0700
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To: Andrew Alston <andrew-ietf@liquid.tech>
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Subject: Re: [Masque] Andrew Alston's No Objection on draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp-14: (with COMMENT)
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Hi Andrew, thanks for sharing your unease. I agree that some text should be
added here.
Let's continue the conversation in the email thread that responds to Erik's
comment.
David

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 2:29 AM Andrew Alston via Datatracker <
noreply@ietf.org> wrote:

> Andrew Alston has entered the following ballot position for
> draft-ietf-masque-connect-udp-14: No Objection
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> Having reviewed this before reading through other positions, I did walk
> away
> with an uneasy feeling about the security section and was struggling to
> find a
> way to articulate it.  Having said that, and having read the comments in
> other
> ballot positions however, I must support Erik's comments, though I to
> couldn't
> really find a way to formulate a discuss.  Sorry for this comment is a
> little
> obscure!  I think a wider description of the security issues around this
> though
> would make me more comfortable.
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