Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE Protocol to Proxy IP Traffic"
David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com> Sat, 12 June 2021 01:59 UTC
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From: David Schinazi <dschinazi.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:59:37 -0700
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To: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com>, Christopher Wood <caw@heapingbits.net>, MASQUE <masque@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE Protocol to Proxy IP Traffic"
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Thanks Chris B, I've created a PR that incorporates your MTU text, and also should answer Magnus' question about trust: https://github.com/ietf-wg-masque/draft-ietf-masque-ip-proxy-reqs/pull/33/files Thanks, David On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 8:07 AM Spencer Dawkins at IETF < spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris, > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 9:20 AM Chris Box <chris.box.ietf@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The endpoints in this document are the endpoints of the tunnel. >>> The goal of the MTU requirement is to mention that these endpoints >>> can share what they view as the max MTU. That would be the MTU >>> of the tunnel itself. You're right that connections that go through the >>> tunnel but don't terminate on the tunnel endpoints would need to >>> also take into account MTUs for the IP hops on either side of the >>> tunnel. One way to accomplish that is PMTUD between the ends of >>> that connection. >>> >> >> That makes sense. In that case, can we clarify the wording? Something >> like this perhaps? >> >> The protocol will allow tunnel endpoints to inform each other of the Maximum >> Transmission Unit (MTU) they are willing to forward. This will allow >> avoiding some IP fragmentation, especially as IPv6 does not allow IP >> fragmentation by nodes along the path. In cases where the tunnel endpoint >> >> is not the same as the communication endpoint, tunnel endpoints are >> >> expected to apply the guidance on UDP tunnels in [BCP145]. >> >> >> Chris >> > > Your question was a good one. I think your proposal is also helpful, > especially with the pointer to BCP 145. > > Thank you for that. > > Best, > > Spencer >
- [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE Prot… Christopher Wood
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Töma Gavrichenkov
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Jana Iyengar
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Martin Thomson
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Töma Gavrichenkov
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Alex Chernyakhovsky
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Christopher Wood
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Alex Chernyakhovsky
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Martin Duke
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Martin Duke
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Alex Chernyakhovsky
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Christopher Wood
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Chris Box
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Chris Box
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … David Schinazi
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Alex Chernyakhovsky
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Masque] WGLC for "Requirements for a MASQUE … Eric Kinnear