Re: [MBONED] [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Multicast Receive API
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Wed, 23 February 2022 16:46 UTC
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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2022 11:46:13 -0500
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Multicast Receive API
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Excellent! Questions in-line Thanks Gyan On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 11:04 AM Holland, Jake <jholland@akamai.com> wrote: > Hi Gyan, > > > > it’s not currently expected to make it into the upstream, as Google said > they’re not interested. However, an implementation is available for > experimenting with. > > Gyan> Did google say why they are not interested? > > I’ve been maintaining a fork that implements the proposed api (but does > not have the authentication functionality implemented): > > https://github.com/GrumpyOldTroll/chromium_fork > > Gyan> That’s great. I will try testing it out > > I’ve been keeping it approximately up to date with chromium releases. > There’s .deb binaries linked from the repo that you can experiment with, > and there’s an example page that uses the api at > https://grumpyoldtroll.github.io/wicg-multicast-receiver-api/demo-multicast-receive-api.html > . > > Gyan> Excellent > > I’m looking into alternatives that might have a better chance at moving > forward and getting adoption based on the feedback we got so far, and as > soon as one of those is operational I’ll probably stop maintaining that > fork and put up a note to the new thing, but for now that’s what I’ve got. > > Gyan> Alternative that might get adopted by Google so they can integrate > natively into the browser? > > > The primary discussion venue for this is the W3C multicast community > group. You can get a rough idea of what we’ve been thinking from the > meeting logs and videos: > > https://github.com/w3c/multicast-cg/tree/main/meetings > > Gyan> Thanks > > HTH, > > Jake > > > > *From: *Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> > *Date: *Tue,2022-02-22 at 8:15 PM > *To: *"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>, MBONED WG <mboned@ietf.org>, > Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> > *Subject: *Re: [blink-dev] Intent to Prototype: Multicast Receive API > > > > > > Dear Jake, Toerless and MBONED > > > > Does anyone know the status of this project to allow Chrome browser to > play multicast natively. > > > > The issue was that NPAPI plug-in is not supported and so multicast cannot > play natively. > > > > So some dev work was needed to get this fixed and working for MBONE > community at large. > > > > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/net-dev/c/TjbMyPKuRHs?pli=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/net-dev/c/TjbMyPKuRHs?pli=1__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFRnRSVq8$> > > > > > > Copy/paste from link above. > > > > Moving blink-dev@ to BCC and forwarding this to the net-dev@ mailing list. > > > > This work proposes adding support for new network protocols to Chromium, > which has security and privacy consequences. net-dev@ is the mailing list > where this conversation should start. From private communications with the > proposers of this new API their primary goal at this stage of development > is to land an experimental implementation within Chromium in order to > facilitate iteration and evaluation of the technology. > > Reilly Grant | Software Engineer | rei...@chromium.org | Google Chrome > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.google.com/chrome__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFJ2r6e6c$> > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:31 PM 'Holland, Jake' via blink-dev < > blin...@chromium.org> wrote: > > Contact emails > > jhol...@akamai.com, bq...@akamai.com > > > Explainer > > > > https://github.com/GrumpyOldTroll/wicg-multicast-receiver-api/blob/master/explainer.md > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/GrumpyOldTroll/wicg-multicast-receiver-api/blob/master/explainer.md__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFmW_6mkM$> > > > Specification > > > > TBD: API spec and design document (currently just entering Intent to > Prototype). > > IETF standards-track docs (all presently works in progress): > > - draft-ietf-mboned-ambi > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/draft-ietf-mboned-ambi/__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFhiTQ8xc$> > - draft-ietf-mboned-dorms > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/draft-ietf-mboned-dorms/__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFpBPIpck$> > > - draft-ietf-mboned-mnat > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/draft-ietf-mboned-mnat/__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFEzNi_XI$> > - draft-ietf-mboned-cbacc > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/draft-ietf-mboned-cbacc/__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNF9SrvDFo$> > > (There will be integrated components prototyped in the browser feature > based an appropriate subset of the above specs before origin trials begin.) > > > > > Summary > > Subscribe to source-specific multicast IP channels and receive UDP > payloads in web applications. > > -- > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.verizon.com/__;!!GjvTz_vk!DhNFIJSjLlBTt2ff1aIHLB55Hz9D_vR8WG3b2uPJ37dr9hNIU4dghgNFEOI0wLY$> > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions Architect * > > *Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>* > > *M 301 502-1347* > > > -- <http://www.verizon.com/> *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>* *M 301 502-1347*
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