Re: [MBONED] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23.txt

"Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF)" <ietf@kuehlewind.net> Mon, 09 April 2018 15:25 UTC

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Hi Warren, hi Hitoschi,

thanks for the summary below!

Yes, the current version addresses my discus and I will clear now.

One comment on this new text:
"Each of these attempts should be initiated only after the previous	
 	   attempt has terminated ...“
Maybe use normative language here:
"Each of these attempts SOULD be initiated only after the previous	
 	   attempt has terminated ...“
Or even:
"Each of these attempts MUST only be initiated after the previous	
 	   attempt has terminated ...“
Or to ne even more clear:
"Each of these attempts MUST NOT be initiated before the previous	
 	   attempt has terminated ...“

Thanks!

Mirja



> Am 03.04.2018 um 10:58 schrieb Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>;:
> 
> [ +EKR, Mirja ]
> 
> On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 2:12 AM, Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org>; wrote:
>> Hi WG and Warren,
>> 
>> We've submitted our revised document for Mtrace version 2.
>> 
>> We believe we had addressed all comments and concerns given during the last IESG review.
>> Please kindly check the document and restart the IESG review again if you think it satisfies all.
> 
> Dear EKR and Mirja,
> 
> I think that this version addresses your DISCUSS points.
> 
> As it's been a while (2 1/2 months) I've included some links to try
> and make this is bit easier:
> 
> Your initial reviews:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2/ballot/
> Ballots: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url1=draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-22&url2=draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23
> 
> I've also tried to summarize your DISCUSS points and the fixes here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NZJkqvg504syBUNkhnB9wod20ajoEJhFIusmUbJ0P20/edit?usp=sharing
> 
> EKR: I'm not sure if you feel that the Security Considerations section
> is now adequate.
> Mirja: The document doesn't explicitly instruct IANA to update the
> ports registry, but there is a reference to this draft already
> (https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers/service-names-port-numbers.xhtml?&page=129)
> and so I beleive it will be done?
> 
> If these address your DISCUSS points, would you be willing to clear?
> 
> W
> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Hitoshi Asaeda
>> 
>> 
>>> 2018/04/03 15:06, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>>> This draft is a work item of the MBONE Deployment WG of the IETF.
>>> 
>>>       Title           : Mtrace Version 2: Traceroute Facility for IP Multicast
>>>       Authors         : Hitoshi Asaeda
>>>                         Kerry Meyer
>>>                         WeeSan Lee
>>>      Filename        : draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23.txt
>>>      Pages           : 38
>>>      Date            : 2018-04-02
>>> 
>>> Abstract:
>>>  This document describes the IP multicast traceroute facility, named
>>>  Mtrace version 2 (Mtrace2).  Unlike unicast traceroute, Mtrace2
>>>  requires special implementations on the part of routers.  This
>>>  specification describes the required functionality in multicast
>>>  routers, as well as how an Mtrace2 client invokes a query and
>>>  receives a reply.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2/
>>> 
>>> There are also htmlized versions available at:
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23
>>> 
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2-23
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
>>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>> 
>>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
> idea in the first place.
> This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
> regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
> of pants.
>   ---maf