Re: [MBONED] WGLC for draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2

"Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com> Thu, 03 August 2017 03:53 UTC

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From: "Holland, Jake" <jholland@akamai.com>
To: Leonard Giuliano <lenny@juniper.net>, Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>
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Thread-Topic: [MBONED] WGLC for draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC for draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2
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I support this. It looks very useful.

One hopefully minor point I noticed:
I assume an AMT gateway would meet the definition of a gateway, if a request arrives at a router with an AMT gateway as the next hop RPF interface, but I don’t think there’s a path to the upstream router or an appropriate multicast address on the RPF interface, since AMT doesn’t provide a path to send non-IGMP/MLD packets upstream over the tunnel.

It doesn’t look like section 4.5 covers this scenario, or do I have it wrong?  I assume that having nowhere to send the proxied query packet, no reply will be received and it would time out, but I’m not sure how an implementation could satisfy the MUST in the final paragraph of 4.5.

Kind regards,
Jake

On 8/2/17, 3:29 PM, "Leonard Giuliano" <lenny@juniper.net> wrote:


Yes, there is:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mboned/current/msg02303.html

So far, we've only heard from Stig in support.  Would really like to hear 
from more folks.  Please speak up folks if you want to see this advanced.

-Lenny

On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Stig Venaas wrote:

| Hi
| 
| Is there a 2nd WGLC going on now? I don't see anything. Or are you
| about to start one?
| 
| Stig
| 
| 
| On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Leonard Giuliano <lenny@juniper.net> wrote:
| >
| > We would like to begin working group last call for
| > draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2.  Please post any and all comments
| > supporting/opposing the draft to the list by Sep 16.  Also, please note if
| > you are aware of any IPR involved in this draft (we must heard from all
| > authors about IPR).
| >
| > Most recent version of the draft can be found here:
| >
| > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mboned-mtrace-v2/
| >
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