Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06

Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com> Tue, 31 January 2017 21:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 1:50 PM, TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com> wrote:

> Thanks Stig,
>
> Assuming I get no more feedback, I will upload this as a new Draft
> tomorrow and request Last Call.
>
> Percy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stig Venaas [mailto:stig@venaas.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 4:48 PM
> To: TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com>
> Cc: Holland, Jake <jholland@akamai.com>; Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>;
> mboned@ietf.org; SAYKO, ROBERT J <rs1983@att.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC: draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
>
> Hi
>
> This looks good to me,
>
> Stig
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:25 PM, TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Jake,
> >
> >
> >
> > Stig do you have any further comments? Is the proposed revision good
> > for you? I would like to request the Last Call process by the end of
> this week.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Percy
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Holland, Jake [mailto:jholland@akamai.com]
> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 6:42 PM
> > To: TARAPORE, PERCY S <pt5947@att.com>; Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>;
> > Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
> > Cc: mboned@ietf.org; SAYKO, ROBERT J <rs1983@att.com>
> >
> >
> > Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC:
> > draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
> >
> >
> >
> > This one looks fine to me. Thanks for all your work on this, Percy.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/30/17, 1:00 PM, "TARAPORE, PERCY S" <pt5947@att.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jake & Stig,
> >
> >
> >
> > Attached please find a revised marked up Draft BCP that addresses all
> > your comments as follows:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jake we accepted all your suggested revisions and have incorporated
> > them into the text.
> >
> >
> >
> > Stig, we attempted to address all your comments. Please review the
> > changes associated with the revision proposed on page 18 (bottom of
> > the page). These changes allow us to keep the text for the bullet on
> > page 19 which was the motivation for Stig’s Comment 2. Please let us
> know if this is acceptable.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond back to me by mid-week so I can formally upload the
> > revised Draft and request start of the next – and hopefully last – Last
> Call.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you for all your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > Percy & Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MBONED [mailto:mboned-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Holland,
> > Jake
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2017 9:39 PM
> > To: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>; Greg Shepherd <gjshep@gmail.com>
> > Cc: mboned@ietf.org
> > Subject: Re: [MBONED] WGLC:
> > draft-ietf-mboned-interdomain-peering-bcp-06
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/17, 11:40 AM, "Stig Venaas" <stig@venaas.com> wrote:
> >
> >     I see in 4.2.3 it says:
> >
> >       o Using the information from the metadata, and possibly
> > information
> >
> >          provisioned directly in the EU client, a DNS query is
> > initiated in
> >
> >          order to connect the EU client/AMT Gateway to an AMT Relay.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Do we already have a solution that allows for choosing a different
> >
> >     relay for different sources? I would be interested in more
> > details. I
> >
> >     guess it may be out of scope here. But is there already a way of
> >
> >     describing this with metadata for any applications or EU clients?
> > As a
> >
> >     BCP it should ideally refer to things that already are in use.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The Octoshape media client does something that fits this description.
> > The
> > (S,G) and the relay address can be provisioned in the client based on
> > metadata it receives at runtime. The DNS is optional, but in this
> > context it’s an example, and I think this describes a real-life
> > scenario that’s deployed today.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To be on the safe side, having mentioned the Octoshape client, I
> > should probably make an IPR disclosure:
> >
> > There are some patents related to the Octoshape technology that I
> > believe are now owned by Akamai and/or its subsidiaries. Though I do
> > not believe this nuance of configurable AMT relay discovery is covered
> > in any of the claims, the Octoshape system itself does use some
> > patent-encumbered technology, and if you are inspired to examine its
> > behavior in light of this discussion or for some other reason, please
> > be aware that you should consider the patents appropriately.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jake
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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