Re: [MBONED] [admin-discuss] Country-level emergency alert systems while at the in-person component of IETF meetings

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Fri, 04 November 2022 02:28 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [MBONED] [admin-discuss] Country-level emergency alert systems while at the in-person component of IETF meetings
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[cc'ing mboned for a fun observation reason]

As a multicast geek i do of course appreciate the fast propagation
of messages on the US EAS system because of cell broadcast (aka: mobile
network layer radio tower multicast as opposed to serialized unicast messages).

We had recently a 5.1 earthquake in the san francisco bay area and something
like 3 seconds into the first shake i had exactly that warning info
(5.1 shake at xxx location) on my phones display so i could decide not
to run out of the house - and the followup shakes proved that to be the
right decision. Nice!

Admittedly, i am not too sure that cell broadcast to everybody is
really the best way to help missing person cases. Those experiences
make me wonder what type of alarms would qualify for the UK system.
Missing Prime Minister alerts ? Missing EU alert ? ;-) Sorry, could not resist.

So: thanks for the pointers, Alex, but wouldn't this be better on ietf115attendees ?

Toerless


On Thu, Nov 03, 2022 at 05:40:16PM +0100, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>     Country-level emergency alert systems while at the in-person component
> of IETF meetings
> 
> UK-Alert: for next IETF meeting in London, maybe, or maybe not, the UK-Alert
> will be in place: https://www.gov.uk/alerts
> 
> J-Alert: used a couple of times in Japan in recent weeks, for various
> military and other.
> 
> EAS Emergency Alert System in USA:
> https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/emergency-alert-system-eas
> 
> FR-Alert: now up and running in France, since a few weeks, following a
> couple of months of testing.
> 
> alertswiss: in Switzerland, a smartphone app,
> https://www.alert.swiss/fr/home.html
> 
> Ro-alert: used in Romania since some time now.  Probably IETF will never
> meet in Bucharest, but I list it as a similarity in naming.  Maybe other
> 'countrycode-alert' systems exist that I did not find myself.
> 
> Some of these alert systems require registration to some site, or the
> installment of an app on a smartphone; others distribute alerts to all 3G
> and 4G smartphones in a geographical area of concern without a need to
> register, and maybe 2G and 5G later.  Some claim to work under extreme tech
> conditions such as the subscription plan having expired, or under no normal
> coverage, or other exceptional situations.
> 
> I wonder what are similar alert systems in Czechia and Canada? where next
> IETF meetings will presumably hold.
> 
> Alex
> 

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