Re: [MBONED] FW: [Secdispatch] Requesting agenda time for draft-krose-multicast-security"

Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Sun, 03 April 2022 18:24 UTC

Return-Path: <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: mboned@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mboned@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA4F3A1CD7 for <mboned@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 3 Apr 2022 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.107
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id U_0Fx0bLTZw5 for <mboned@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 3 Apr 2022 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pf1-x432.google.com (mail-pf1-x432.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::432]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B32E43A1CD2 for <mboned@ietf.org>; Sun, 3 Apr 2022 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pf1-x432.google.com with SMTP id b13so7051078pfv.0 for <mboned@ietf.org>; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=NyZtjGpie0TCEZ/V2umiTag14HfP7V88WQGDv499oP0=; b=Y843AeMUraXG+F70izUGm/n2kCe8TbAF33tmYE/mDbC8/PYwoGkRRDUON4jSAWPEk3 lv1U5g2FLprg5Lv9N0AHNwI0OmpvvVOrSoebFxe4396WDiCgraWcagd5kfyzje9EvJHW H96rKIRoWA+U+/VVx91Z+6z6J41LowffCDWgbTOTonmJwc6wpUfyXNLf/u1Q0DJ541Q9 QK9dOuuTJsFaUYTnDJLqX2HaxnzNhfmr2mGZE0LkcaNaAFpuhrgx148i+QQHIjz5w85b 997Og6VNm8BG75YRvMUs34hu4LBdvnmgbzzMuENy6kPQf2rOOLGbzLSYp57BLaq81z9l eyqA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=NyZtjGpie0TCEZ/V2umiTag14HfP7V88WQGDv499oP0=; b=qqzfgRCiQvA84mwqT5hEOH1gvO0zcKq+jED3P0wjZI9hBw60tf261R/6BSgwJsmzD/ UmwHpWNtTj0kIjCxG0L+ZrgSASJ9S1VLxnb2Dakq/XIJwbUdlkcg6EppN+oztMMksF7h dRfT9t55ouM1n0JSnroELvXSpHgEeVHD9jDz35hoJCNQy4hwOx4TG0KzWgYoObjxRyHt MWtPqSeEpTxOnD2Jy3xi4WqQaMlQXimPLJcS3bOB5Iiu7WdozfQ/4Ns3FsOYCsOCjgyQ SV0R8OL6kl3UwJpqfwWUKbNaNG1cP7hJPQ5QgyoIHlRyMtReiuPDS4Rs1VXnsV2HMnur sJhQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5330uL5KY03tE1suVe+v7mT2eNgr/RSd4uUnZlZSbLg9oF9ou6uG OIu1ciSaS8zQDF4DfmP15ZH+8wQGfQzcVi9u78laIVA/
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw7QHlBkchEIQn1h9FHH2t28A9BPvunKIYXCS2rfVKmV/29UxXyawdicFYEwP7NqhEsIlpVN0Dz7DEyk/8jBDs=
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a00:23c4:b0:4fb:28fa:fc36 with SMTP id g4-20020a056a0023c400b004fb28fafc36mr43158081pfc.76.1649010286159; Sun, 03 Apr 2022 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <DB9PR08MB660213814FDC862382AD21CBFD879@DB9PR08MB6602.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com> <886CCDF8-282A-4137-83B1-ED04C7EF6200@akamai.com>
In-Reply-To: <886CCDF8-282A-4137-83B1-ED04C7EF6200@akamai.com>
From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2022 14:24:34 -0400
Message-ID: <CABNhwV39TBNmsO+JVSSuMMCbSA3yMqzz6JT=tseU+x5TtOP1BA@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Holland, Jake" <jholland=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Cc: MBONED WG <mboned@ietf.org>
Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="0000000000005685df05dbc4207e"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mboned/_AvRxbzrayVY358vQCbQCGlFDY0>
Subject: Re: [MBONED] FW: [Secdispatch] Requesting agenda time for draft-krose-multicast-security"
X-BeenThere: mboned@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Mail List for the Mboned Working Group <mboned.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mboned>, <mailto:mboned-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mboned/>
List-Post: <mailto:mboned@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mboned-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned>, <mailto:mboned-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2022 18:24:58 -0000

Hi Jake

I agree that Multicast ABR standardization is valuable for operators as
customers start shifting to OTT streaming services which we are seeing
already from the pandemic.

Does MBONE have MABR drafts already in progress?

I did a google search on MABR as far a standardization across SDOs and ITU
came up.

https://www.itu.int/md/T17-SG09-C-0197/en

DVB has a presentation on MABR

https://thebroadcastknowledge.com/2020/10/27/video-making-a-case-for-dvb-mabr/

Another link about OTT and MABR

https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/smpte2020-finding-the-middle-ground-for-live-content-over-ott



Thanks

Gyan

On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 7:40 PM Holland, Jake <jholland=
40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi mboned,
>
>
>
> Lenny just pointed out to me that DAZN’s contribution on the secdispatch
> list last October expressing their interest in standardizing mabr multicast
> would also be of interest in the mboned wg, so please enjoy their forwarded
> comments below, and consider their call to action to continue work to
> standardize things that will help make multicast adaptive bitrate streaming
> possible.
>
>
>
> -Jake
>
>
>
> *From: *Alasdair Kennedy <Alasdair.Kennedy@dazn.com>
> *Date: *Fri,2021-10-29 at 1:27 AM
> *To: *"secdispatch@ietf.org" <secdispatch@ietf.org>
> *Cc: *"Taylor, James" <jataylor@akamai.com>, "Holland, Jake" <
> jholland@akamai.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Secdispatch] Requesting agenda time for
> draft-krose-multicast-security"
>
>
>
> We have recently rolled out Multicast ABR in conjunction with an ISP.
>
> The results have shown a revolutionary step change for us, both in terms
> of QoE, specifically rebuffering rate / CIRR, and cost of delivery.
>
> As such Multicast ABR (mABR) is something we are actively pushing forward
> with, with other ISPs globally.
>
>
>
> As users change TV watching habits from traditional TV to OTT Streaming,
> the volume of video traffic can only go up.
>
> ISPs can either continue to build out to handle peak unicast traffic,
> which is providing difficult & expensive, or they will embrace mABR, as we
> are finding from a lot of ISPs globally.
>
>
>
> However, we are acutely aware that this is likely to involve multiple
> vendors with different proprietary standards, creating the usual problems.
>
>
>
> So any initiatives to standardise mABR we would like to see move forward.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> *Alasdair Kennedy (he/him)*
>
> Head of Video Architecture
>
> Alasdair.Kennedy@dazn.com
>
> +44 (0)7769 700 910
>
> 12 Hammersmith Grove, London, W6 7AP
>
>
>
>
>
> CONFIDENTIALITY: This email and any files transmitted with it are
> confidential, may be legally privileged and are intended solely for the use
> of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If this has come to
> you in error, you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use any of the
> information it contains. Please notify the sender immediately and delete
> them from your system. PRIVACY: DAZN Media Services Limited (a member of
> the DAZN Group, with Companies House registration number 3426471) may
> monitor email traffic data and also the content of email for the purposes
> of security and staff training. For information on how the DAZN Group
> processes your information, please refer to
> https://media.dazn.com/en/privacy-notice-gdpr/. SECURITY: Please be aware
> that emails are not secure and may contain viruses. AUTHORITY: Any views or
> opinions expressed in this email are solely those of the sender and do not
> necessarily represent those of the DAZN Group. COPYRIGHT: Copyright of this
> email and any attachments belongs to DAZN Group Limited, Companies House
> registration number 6324278. Further information about DAZN Group is
> available at https://media.dazn.com/en/.
> _______________________________________________
> MBONED mailing list
> MBONED@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned
>
-- 

<http://www.verizon.com/>

*Gyan Mishra*

*Network Solutions A**rchitect *

*Email gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com <gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com>*



*M 301 502-1347*