Re: [MBONED] Mirja Kühlewind's No Objection on draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-06: (with COMMENT)

Leonard Giuliano <lenny@juniper.net> Mon, 06 January 2020 17:43 UTC

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Mirja- thanks for your review.  MSDP is still a useful protocol for 
intradomain deployments.

Thanks,
Lenny 

On Mon, 6 Jan 2020, Mirja Kühlewind via Datatracker wrote:

| Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
| draft-ietf-mboned-deprecate-interdomain-asm-06: No Objection
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| Thanks for this well-written document.
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| I'm by far no expert here but reading this document it sounds a bit like
| RFC3618 should be moved to historic... was that discussed?
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| This document seem not to use normative RFC2119 language but I think could
| benefit from it. Was that considered?
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