Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suffixes (Re: WG: IETF 112 agenda)
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Subject: Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suffixes (Re: WG:
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> I can imagine some more questions that can be raised about multiple > suffixes: > - Is the namespace of suffixes itself a namespace (ie is there an unique > definition of "+json" as a suffix)? > RFC 6838 sction 6 says "yes". And so does the current draft, albeit in a different way: It draws an equivalence between all of the possible sufixes and a correspnding media type. So a trailing +json is necessarily associated with application/json, +ld+json with both application/ld+json and application/json, and so on. I wish we're considered using this approach when we first specified suffixes. It might have made things clearer. > - Is the order of suffixes significant or meaningless (ie is vc+ld+json > the same as vc+json+ld)? > Draft seems to say that the anwer is "significant", +ld+json must be > registered, and this attaches no meaning to +json+ld. It's an unavoidable consequence of the way the mechanism is defined, but it should be stated explicitly. > - was suffixes a bad idea that we should abandon, attaching no special > meaning to the + character? > The number of registrations in > https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-type-structured-suffix/media-type-structured-suffix.xhtml > seems to indicate that even if it was true, it's too late to take this path. And the fact that we (intentionally) haven't registered any media types with multiple +'s in the name means it's possible to redefine the meaning of multiple +'s as long as it doesn't break existing single +suffix usage. (And I see no reason why it should.) Of course it's possible there are unregistered media types with multiple +s in the name in use. But if there are, it only really matters if the suffix components are things that should be registered *and* the usage differs from what we specify. I think that's unlikely. Ned
- [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Manu Sporny
- [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple… Manu Sporny
- Re: [media-types] More questions for multiple suf… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [media-types] More questions for multiple suf… Manu Sporny
- Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple… Ned Freed