Re: [media-types] WG: Confirming consensus - polls taken at IETF 112

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Subject: Re: [media-types] WG: Confirming consensus - polls taken at IETF 112
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On 2021-11-10 00:37, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> The following opinion polls were taken at the IETF meeting of MEDIAMAN, 
> which translate directly into WG decisions if confirmed on the mailing 
> list.
> 
> The questions asked, with hand raised / hand not raised numbers:
> 
> - Should there be a process for creating a new top level type? (10:2)

Somewhat ambivalent. It's clear that a good process might have helped 
with the 'font' top level type, and probably also with the 'haptics' top 
level type. But I'm not sure we have an idea of what a good process 
means, and a non-optimal process might cause more problems than it may help.

Also, the most important part, the criteria for what makes sense as a 
top level type, are to a big part "I know it when I see it", but with 
the caveat that different people may 'know' things differently even if 
they see the same thing.

But I have nothing against somebody else trying to write something up 
and have it discussed; we can always abandon the effort if it doesn't 
pan out. Also, I note that Harald seems to volunteer as an author. Or 
does "Start work for writing up" just mean "start to find somebody who's 
arms could be twisted into writing up"?

So count me neutral on this one, sorry.

> - Should we adopt the haptics draft? (14:0)

Agree.

> - Should we adopt the suffixes draft? (10:0)

Agree.

Regards,   Martin.

> If the list agrees with the consensus answers to this question, the 
> chair will:
> 
> - Start work for writing up a process on how to create a new top level type
> 
> - Instruct the "haptics" authors to republish as an IETF draft
> 
> - Instruct the "suffixes" authors to republish as an IETF draft
> 
> If you wish to support or oppose any of these decisions, please reply to 
> this message explaining your position.
> 
> Harald
> 
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