Re: [media-types] Templates for basic MIME types

Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Sat, 26 December 2020 08:00 UTC

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Cc: Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org>, media-types@ietf.org, Chris Lilley <chris@w3.org>
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From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Subject: Re: [media-types] Templates for basic MIME types
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> My understanding has always been that the registration template is a
> transient artefact, and is not required to be published. Why is there a need
> for this?

Quite right - there is no need for this activity.

Registration templates are a handy tool for collecting and submtting the 
information necessary for a registration, nothing more.

The actual publication requirements for media types are laid out in section
4.10 of RFC 6848. Templates aren't mentioned in that section.

Sometimes templates end up getting published - the IETF does it routinely. Some
other standards bodies do so as well, others do not.

It's also the case that more information required to register now than
in the past. But increased information requirements do not apply retroactively
to previously registered media types. (It should be obvious why this is the
case.)

Of course nothing precludes engaging in this activity. But like Mark, I don't
see any actual need. And if you really want to spend time on media types, there
are plenty of entirely missing types that would benefit from being registered.

				Ned

> > On 26 Dec 2020, at 3:17 am, Eric Prud'hommeaux <eric@w3.org> wrote:
> >
> > And I'll ask for sweeping changes that invalidate the billions of existing deployments...
> >
> > Happy holidays, all!
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 02:48:09AM +0200, Chris Lilley wrote:
> >> I'm happy to review any of the image media types.
> >>
> >> On 2020-12-24 00:37, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
> >>> There are a number of media types registered by RFCs 2045 and 2046
> >>> implicitly (e.g., image/jpeg, image/gif).  The media type registry has
> >>> entries for them pointing at those two documents, but the documents
> >>> never actually present registration templates for any of them.
> >>>
> >>> Just to make the record complete, I plan to send the reviewers a set of
> >>> registration templates for them.  I'll post them here as well in case
> >>> anyone wants to comment.
> >>>
> >>> I presume we're fine with that approach, rather than requiring an RFC?
> >>>
> >>> -MSK, ART AD
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