[media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suffixes (Re: WG: IETF 112 agenda)
Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Sun, 07 November 2021 21:54 UTC
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Subject: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suffixes (Re: WG:
IETF 112 agenda)
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I can imagine some more questions that can be raised about multiple suffixes: - Is the namespace of suffixes itself a namespace (ie is there an unique definition of "+json" as a suffix)? RFC 6838 sction 6 says "yes". - Is the order of suffixes significant or meaningless (ie is vc+ld+json the same as vc+json+ld)? Draft seems to say that the anwer is "significant", +ld+json must be registered, and this attaches no meaning to +json+ld. - was suffixes a bad idea that we should abandon, attaching no special meaning to the + character? The number of registrations in https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-type-structured-suffix/media-type-structured-suffix.xhtml seems to indicate that even if it was true, it's too late to take this path. On 11/7/21 7:44 PM, Manu Sporny wrote: > On 11/3/21 9:00 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >> Multiple suffixes for media types (15 min) >> - Presentation of problem space (Manu Sporny): 5 min > Slides for the topic above are attached to this email. > > Google slides are here: > > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1mAlCFvyWurUyViJqyKymnjKKZ-Br0srFCi1nTod_JKg/edit?usp=sharing > > -- manu > > > _______________________________________________ > media-types mailing list > media-types@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/media-types
- [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: IETF 112 agenda Manu Sporny
- [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple suf… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple… Manu Sporny
- Re: [media-types] More questions for multiple suf… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [media-types] More questions for multiple suf… Manu Sporny
- Re: [media-types] WG: More questions for multiple… Ned Freed