Re: [MEDIACTRL] Mixer Control Package

Tim Melanchuk <timm@rainwillow.com> Tue, 06 September 2011 17:23 UTC

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2nd from me.

timm

On 2011-09-06, at 10:20 AM, Lorenzo Miniero wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:01:21 -0400
> Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Mixer Control Package, the second to last normative document the work group needs to publish, has been on hold for nine months waiting for the XCON common data model.  That document has been stuck in the XCON work group for over three months.
>> 
>> Do we need this to be a normative reference?  We refer to the document in two places.  The first is in 4.2.1.4.2.1, where we enumerate the entire list of video layouts. By the way, that reference is a MAY, not a MUST or even a SHOULD.  The second is in 4.4.1, where we say we take the <codec> element from the data model, but then we go ahead and define the element, anyway.
>> 
>> I would offer that reading, understanding, and conforming to the data model is a nice thing.  However, it is not mandatory for creating an interoperable mediactrl implementation.  Therefore, I would propose we ask the RFC Editor move this reference from the Normative References to the Informative References, at which point this document will publish.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
> 
> +1 from me.
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> L.
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