Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name include the version number
Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com> Mon, 19 July 2010 21:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name include the version number
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I say (as an individual) "Nay, nay": Packages do whatever they want. Backwards compatibility is a nice fairy tale, but not anything we really care about. I offer packages are arbitrary, opaque names. If they *happen* to end with /1.0 or /9.2993, great. However, I would offer the protocol should not care or impose any semantics about what the /mumble.foo means. On Jul 7, 2010, at 3:47 PM, Chris Boulton wrote: > Hi All, > > As part of our IESG review the following has been identified: > > Section 8.1 > states: > The package name MUST also register a > version number for the package which is separated with a '/' symbol > e.g. package_name/1.0. > This could be taken to mean that (1) "package_name/1.0" is the complete > package name or (2) "package_name" is the mere package name and "1.0" is > the package version number. The ABNF appears to imply (1) because it says: > > Packages = "Packages:" SP package-name *(COMMA package-name) > package-name = alpha-num-token > alpha-num-token = ALPHANUM 3*31alpha-num-tokent-char > alpha-num-tokent-char = ALPHANUM / "." / "-" / "+" / "%" / "=" / "/" > > This appears to allow "/" in the "mere package name". If so, how will > software parse the complete package name to determine the package > version number? Will it parse the complete package name from the end and > split the name at the first "/" character it finds? Can the version > number include a "/" character? The ABNF does not appear to disallow that. > > > What do we want to do with version? I would suggest that we soften the MUST requirement. > > Chris. > > > -- > Chris Boulton > CTO & Co-founder > NS-Technologies > m: +44.7876.476681 > _______________________________________________ > MEDIACTRL mailing list > MEDIACTRL@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mediactrl > Supplemental Web Site: > http://www.standardstrack.com/ietf/mediactrl
- [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name include t… Chris Boulton
- Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name inclu… Eric Burger
- Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name inclu… RahulSrivastava 71616
- Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name inclu… Lorenzo Miniero
- Re: [MEDIACTRL] Does a Control Package name inclu… Chris Boulton