Re: [MEDIACTRL] Language Tags for Error Comments (was ... error in examples in section 4.2.3)

Agreed. I believe the text will be used by system operators and developers to track down problems.

Le 2010-07-19 à 17:14, Eric Burger a écrit :

> Speaking as myself, users will not ever see this text, so it can be opaque and without language tags.  However, we need INPUT from the WG to close this.
> 
> On Jul 1, 2010, at 10:26 AM, Eric Burger wrote:
> 
>> An AD wants to know: Will users ever see this text?  If we call it opaque, anyone mind if we do specify a language tag anyway?  My guess is no one will ever specify a tag with the string, but it does mean that MEDIACTRL clients should not barf is someday a server does specify a language tag.
>> 
>> Thoughts?
>> 
>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 7:26 AM, Eric Burger wrote:
>> 
>>> Does it need to be in local language? Does it need to always be readable? Does it need to be interpreted by a human? Does it need to be interpreted by a machine?
>>> 
>>> I would offer the answers are "No, No, Probably, Never", which means the comment should be opaque, 7-bit ASCII text.
>>> 
>>> Anyone think otherwise?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2010, at 5:34 AM, RahulSrivastava 71616 wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Mostly this is required for writing logs and debugging.
>>>> Required for checking call failures and proving to somebody why it failed after days of usgae :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rahul
>>>> 
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Eric Burger <eburger@standardstrack.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:42 am
>>>> Subject: Re: [MEDIACTRL] draft-ietf-mediactrl-mixer-control-package-11 error	in examples in section 4.2.3
>>>> To: mediactrl@ietf.org
>>>> 
>>>>> More fundamental question: Why do we have reason text at all?
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of the DISCUSSes from the ADs is that if we have human-
>>>>> readable text, it has to have a language indicator.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the Reason Comment is not human readable, then we do not need it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What would be the opinion of the WG to drop reason / comment text 
>>>>> everywhere? Or, to keep with HTTP, to have fixed reason strings? 
>>>>> Or, to keep with XML, we just say that the string gets interpreted 
>>>>> in whatever locale the XML gets interpreted?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2010, at 11:29 AM, McGlashan, Scott wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks - I'll fix them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4 Jun 2010, at 19:04, Stéphane Bastien wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In draft-ietf-mediactrl-mixer-control-package-11, there are 
>>>>> errors in the examples in section 4.2.3 <response>.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The examples are:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <response code="200">
>>>>>> <reason>Success</reason>
>>>>>> </response>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <response code="403">
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <reason>Conf already exists</reason>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> </response>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I believe they should show:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <response status="200" reason="conference created" />
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <response status="405" reason="Conference already exists" />
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Stéphane
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <ATT00001..txt>
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