Re: [MEXT] [dmm] IETF-81

[Ashutosh Dutta <[e-mail]>]

Hi Julien, I agree with Yokota-san that face-to-face discussion helps  
a lot to avoid confusion and clarify the technical details. We should  
encourage face-to-face discussion as much as possible for the  
technical details.

Regards
Ashutosh


Quoting Hidetoshi Yokota <[e-mail]>:

> Hi Julien,
>
> WG mailing list sometimes leads to a lengthy discussion, which creates
> misunderstandings and frustration that could be avoided if it was
> discussed in a F2F meeting. Urgency is one important aspect but mutual
> understanding is another good aspect of F2F meeting. It is pity to miss
> such a precious opportunity for nothing in spite of a couple of very
> interesting I-Ds awaiting a good discussion...
>
> -- 
> Hidetoshi
>
> (2011/07/06 23:31), Julien Laganier wrote:
>> Hidetoshi,
>>
>> If WG mailing list on a given topic doesn' t happen in a timely
>> fashion, I would suggest that either people are not interested in the
>> topic, or it's not urgent to them.  If a topic isn't urgent for
>> people, then IMHO giving them face-to-face time isn't urgent either.
>>
>> --julien
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Hidetoshi Yokota<[e-mail]>  wrote:
>>> Hi Julien,
>>>
>>> WG mailing list is the base of the discussion, but sometimes it takes very
>>> long time to proceed, by which it loses timeliness. Network-initiated flow
>>> mobility or Distributed Mobility Management (DMM) come from urgent  
>>>  needs and
>>> IETF has the reputation of responding to such needs in a timely manner. F2F
>>> meeting is generally more efficient than ML discussion and   
>>> effective for the
>>> chairs to progress the standards process. I believe that ML discussion and
>>> F2F meeting are the two wheels of moving I-Ds forward and we shouldn't miss
>>> the opportunity of F2F meetings, which happen only three times in a year.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> --
>>> Hidetoshi
>>>
>>> (2011/07/06 0:29), Julien Laganier wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dirk and Hidetoshi,
>>>>
>>>> Face to face meeting time should IMHO primarily be used to resolve
>>>> issues that cannot be resolved on the WG mailing list. As of now I do
>>>> not see any, hence the absence of a MEXT WG meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> --julien
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:09 AM,<[e-mail]>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>> I agree with Hidetoshi that the flow binding initiation draft should need
>>>>> more discussion - as well as DMM progress in the framework of MEXT and
>>>>> potentially the vehicular topics recently mentioned by Alex on this list.
>>>>> Wouldn't that qualify to include a WG session meeting in
>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/agenda/81/?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Dirk
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>>> Von: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] Im Auftrag von
>>>>> Hidetoshi Yokota
>>>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. Juni 2011 04:12
>>>>> An: [e-mail]
>>>>> Betreff: Re: [MEXT] IETF-81
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Julien and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for our late notice, but we just submitted the revised version of
>>>>> "Home Agent Initiated Flow Binding for Mobile IPv6" and would like to
>>>>> discuss it at the next IETF meeting. Since this topic hasn't got
>>>>> consensus and requires an intensive discussion, a face to face meeting
>>>>> will be needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please take a look at the following I-D:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-yokota-mext-ha-init-flow-binding-00.txt
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance for your support,
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hidetoshi
>>>>>
>>>>> (2011/06/28 1:36), Julien Laganier wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at this point we do not have anything on our plate that would require
>>>>>> face to face discussion thus the MEXT WG will not meet in Quebec.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --julien&      marcelo
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