Re: [MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in wirelessnetworks
<Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com> Fri, 26 August 2011 20:08 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in
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Hi Julien, On 8/26/11 3:00 PM, "ext Julien Laganier" <julien.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >Hi Raj, > >On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, <Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Charlie, >> >> On 8/26/11 1:38 PM, "ext Charles E. Perkins" <charliep@computer.org> >>wrote: >>> >>>>> Thus I am still not sure what the problem is. >>> >>> >>>The problem is that they can't do very effective handovers. >>>Worse, they are designing _per-application_ handover systems. >>>This is wrong by most reasonable engineering standards, >>>regardless on the positive effect it might have for >>>standards junkies and permanent employment for engineers. >> >> Effective handovers between what networks? Handovers within the scope of >> an HSPA or LTE access for example work fine. >> If you are referring to handovers between 3G accesses and wifi (non-3GPP >> access) then yes. >> But the handover performance in such a scenario is hampered by other >> factors such as latency in connectivity and authentication etc. > >In the latter (handover between 3GPP and non-3GPP), given that the >source and target system are accessed by different radio systems, I do >not see handover performance has a factor hampering the usability or >desirability of the inter-system handover scheme in use. You mean the impact (in terms of lower performance) of handovers across 3GPP and non-3GPP handovers does not really matter because those applications that rely on high performing handovers will anyway not rely on such? But you could make a case that we could see applications (eg. Skype) that would benefit from lower latency handovers across the different radio systems. -Raj > >--julien
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