[MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in wireless networks
"Charles E. Perkins" <charliep@computer.org> Wed, 24 August 2011 19:05 UTC
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Hello folks, It's now 2011. Mobile IP was standardized late in 1996, after work had already been started nearly ten years before. Over two decades! -- and regardless of lip service to fixed/mobile convergence we still don't have seamless mobility in user devices across heterogeneous media, and standards organizations (notably 3GPP) are not properly taking advantage of what Mobile IP can do. The losers are the end-users, which means all of us. There are many reasons for this, but one of the main reasons has to do with authentication at the access network. EAP in various forms is being utilized for this purpose, and Mobile IP is not, even though there has never been any reported failure of the RFC 5944 or RFC 4285 or RFC 6275 (to my knowledge). Moreover, unless there is something wrong with the cryptography that also has not been reported, these authentication methods enable _mutual_ authentication between the network and the client, not just client authentication. In order for Mobile IP to enable the real promise of high performance heterogeneous networking, we have to do some more work. I would like to initiate some more discussion about this. DMM is interesting in its own right, but it's not at all the whole story. Moreover, with proper design, it is likely the supposed burden of signaling to the home agent can be substantially reduced. As one simple example, if handovers are accomplished locally between trusted access agents (routers, 802.11 access controllers, ...) then the actual timing of tunnel redirection from the home agent becomes much less critical. This is also intricately intertwined with authentication. If the Home Agent were recognized as a robust security appliance, then it could naturally sit on the network boundary as an IP-addressable device. Mobile IP authentication could become the primary means of validating user access, instead of an afterthought to enable IP-address preservation after all the heavy lifting has been done a lower levels. I would like to propose that in this working group we should go about making this happen. It seems to be important, and undeniably aligned with our working group responsibilities. Regards, Charlie P.
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