Re: [MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in wirelessnetworks
Julien Laganier <julien.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 26 August 2011 19:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in
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Hi Raj, On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:01 PM, <Basavaraj.Patil@nokia.com> wrote: > > Hi Charlie, > > On 8/26/11 1:38 PM, "ext Charles E. Perkins" <charliep@computer.org> wrote: >> >>>> Thus I am still not sure what the problem is. >> >> >>The problem is that they can't do very effective handovers. >>Worse, they are designing _per-application_ handover systems. >>This is wrong by most reasonable engineering standards, >>regardless on the positive effect it might have for >>standards junkies and permanent employment for engineers. > > Effective handovers between what networks? Handovers within the scope of > an HSPA or LTE access for example work fine. > If you are referring to handovers between 3G accesses and wifi (non-3GPP > access) then yes. > But the handover performance in such a scenario is hampered by other > factors such as latency in connectivity and authentication etc. In the latter (handover between 3GPP and non-3GPP), given that the source and target system are accessed by different radio systems, I do not see handover performance has a factor hampering the usability or desirability of the inter-system handover scheme in use. --julien
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- Re: [MEXT] Well-known problem with authentication… Julien Laganier
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