Re: [MEXT] [!! SPAM] Re: Well-known problem with authentication/etc. in wirelessnetworks
"Charles E. Perkins" <charliep@computer.org> Fri, 26 August 2011 18:37 UTC
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Hello Pete, I might be stepping out on another limb here, but anyway... On 8/25/2011 7:23 PM, Pete McCann wrote: > You're right that performance is probably not why 3GPP went the > way they did. ... Check. > There was also a legacy authentication infrastructure built around > AKA that they wanted to re-use. They didn't build algorithm agility > into their UE authentication protocol. One could argue that in an > LTE network the mobility is very much tied to the access authentication, > and it's one reason why MIPv6 has missed the boat here. Double check. >> Thus I am still not sure what the problem is. The problem is that they can't do very effective handovers. Worse, they are designing _per-application_ handover systems. This is wrong by most reasonable engineering standards, regardless on the positive effect it might have for standards junkies and permanent employment for engineers. > There's probably very little impetus for change no matter what MEXT > does. I agree that, if [mext] does nothing, there won't be much impetus for change. But if we do something that is (a) secure, (b) deployable, (c) easier to administer, and (d) considerably better performance, then I reckon they'd have to be purposefully resistant to insist on ignoring it. Regards, Charlie P.
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