Re: [midcom] More on new work item
Jonathan Rosenberg <jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com> Mon, 26 April 2004 21:45 UTC
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I'm not sure we should take on these work items. My concerns are mostly practical. I think we agree that DHCP applicability is only in very, very limited topologies - only in simple stub networks where an end user client would normally directly talk to a nat. This would really be limited to consumers with home nats, or to enterprises. I think its unlikely that an enterprise would actually allow end clients to control the nat, due to the serious potential for abuse (imagine a virus infecting a PC, causing it to ask the middlebox to open all ports to all addresses). As such, I dont think this is workable in enterprise. That leaves home NAT. However, do we think that manufacturers of such devices are likely to support midcom? I'd like to hear from one on this list. If not, this work item would be useful only in theory. Even if they did, how would we expect the clients to be configured with the security credentials needed to exercise midcom control over their nat? If such information is manually configured into the client, why can't you manually configure the IP of the home NAT as well? Thanks, Jonathan R. Melinda Shore wrote: > There's been no feedback on the proposed charter change, which concerns > me. I hope that people will speak up regardless of whether they think > the proposed work item is a good idea or a bad idea. > > I don't think getting the work done would be an issue - there are > always people willing to author documents. However, getting people > to *review* documents is far more difficult, and I don't think we can > allow work to go forward if we don't have a reasonable expectation > that people with subject area expertise - in this case, the midcom > working group - are willing to take the time to provide expert review > as the document is progressed. I don't want to make any assumptions > about what the lack of feedback means, so even a simple "yes" or "no" > on the proposed work item would be much appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Melinda > > > _______________________________________________ > midcom mailing list > midcom@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/midcom > -- Jonathan D. Rosenberg, Ph.D. 600 Lanidex Plaza Chief Technology Officer Parsippany, NJ 07054-2711 dynamicsoft jdrosen@dynamicsoft.com FAX: (973) 952-5050 http://www.jdrosen.net PHONE: (973) 952-5000 http://www.dynamicsoft.com _______________________________________________ midcom mailing list midcom@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/midcom
- [midcom] More on new work item Melinda Shore
- Re: [midcom] More on new work item Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE: [midcom] More on new work item Christopher A. Martin
- Re: [midcom] More on new work item Melinda Shore
- RE : [midcom] More on new work item Joel Tran
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Joel Tran
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Jonathan Rosenberg
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Joel Tran
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Melinda Shore
- Re: RE : [midcom] More on new work item Jonathan Rosenberg
- RE : RE : [midcom] More on new work item Joel Tran
- Re: RE : RE : [midcom] More on new work item Melinda Shore
- RE: RE : RE : [midcom] More on new work item Christian Huitema
- RE : RE : [midcom] More on new work item Joel Tran
- Re: RE : RE : [midcom] More on new work item Jonathan Rosenberg