Re: [midcom] Normative References in draft-ietf-midcom-mib-09

Juergen Quittek <quittek@netlab.nec.de> Sun, 12 November 2006 22:56 UTC

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From: Juergen Quittek <quittek@netlab.nec.de>
To: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>, midcom@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [midcom] Normative References in draft-ietf-midcom-mib-09
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Hi Magnus,

I do not see a problem with this from the technical point of view.
This solution probably matches the content of the involved documents
best.  However, I do not know the formal procedures that need to
be applied in such a case and how much trouble this would cause.

Thanks,

    Juergen

--On 10.11.06 10:23 -0800 Magnus Westerlund wrote:

> Hi,
>
> After some more discussion there may be another way that actually is better. As the MIB is do dependent on the semantics the proposal would be to retarget RFC 3989 to proposed standard. Then we keep that as normative reference. The other two (RFC 3303,
> RFC 3404) both are moved to informational part of the reference list. Any comments on this?
>
> Cheers
>
> Magnus Westerlund
>
> Magnus Westerlund skrev:
>> Hi
>>
>> In the IESG evaluation of the document it was realized that there was
>> three normative references (RFC 3303, RFC 3404, RFC 3989) that are to
>> informative documents. These are not allowed unless it can be accepted
>> under RFC3967.
>>
>> I have discussed this with the authors and from our point of view RFC
>> 3304 can be changed informative reference, it is not required for
>> implementing the protocol. However RFC 3989 is clearly required to be
>> implemented and that it seems that also RFC 3303 can be consider to be a
>> normative reference. Is anyone in the WG disagreeing about this
>> classification?
>>
>> If the WG is agreeing on a classification that contains any
>> informational RFCs in the normative section the document will require a
>> new IETF last call that calls out these downrefs.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Magnus Westerlund
>>
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> Magnus Westerlund
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