Re: [middisc] middisc specification update
Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Tue, 13 March 2012 16:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [middisc] middisc specification update
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On 3/5/2012 2:44 PM, Anantha Ramaiah (ananth) wrote: > > Right, from vendors pov, experimental may sound fine. But from IETF > standards pov, this sort of an effort is aimed at reducing unauthorized > TCP option poaching and if such a draft exists it would both act as a > recommendation and for vendors to not use unauthorized options. In such > cases would experimental convey the "strong" message. May be some text > needs to be added to the draft echoing what you alluded above... I have a real problem with Standards Track, given that the middlebox association seemed to introduce a combination of distaste and eventual disinterest in TCPM. Also, based on the slow progress in getting this specification done, I have some doubt that it will quickly be integrated into products and deployed. I think that given the options we have, Experimental is a reasonable fit, and if it does wind up in wide use by multiple vendors, we can look at advancing it. > I am not sure these things are spelled out clearly in the draft, but the > message is spread across and may be if there is a need for making it > more clear, please let us know. I would like it to be very clear. > Also if the status is experimental, I am assuming that we would still > get a regular TCP option code point and not the TCP experimental option > code point. I am assuming when you said experiment above it is more on > the lines of multiple vendors dis-continuing and using the standard TCP > option number that is allocated for this purpose. With IESG approval, a regular option can be allocated, regardless of whether the document status is Experimental. -- Wes Eddy MTI Systems
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- [middisc] middisc specification update Wesley Eddy
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update David Harrington
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Andrew Knutsen
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Andrew Knutsen
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Eggert, Lars
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Eddy, Wesley M. (GRC-MS00)[ASRC AEROSPACE CORP]
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Frederick, Ron
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Eggert, Lars
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Mani Ramasamy (mani)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update David Harrington
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Frederick, Ron
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Andrew Knutsen
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Frederick, Ron
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Wesley Eddy
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Knutsen, Andrew
- Re: [middisc] middisc specification update Anantha Ramaiah (ananth)