Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif

Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com> Thu, 29 January 2009 10:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif
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Hong Yong-Geun a écrit :
[...]
> It is appreciate to understand that (even though the scope of mif is 
> not fixed) mif has different directions to MEXT.

Do the 'DNS control protocol' directions mentioned in MIF differ somehow
from the existing MEXT monami6-inherited directions?  Does MEXT address
'DNS control protocol' when multiple-interfaces-in-a-host are involved?

Alex

> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Yong-Geun.
> 
> -----원본 메시지----- *From:* "marcelo bagnulo braun" <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>
>  *From Date:* 2009-01-28 오후 6:40:09 *To:* "Hong Yong-Geun" 
> <yghong@etri.re.kr> *Cc:* "mext@ietf.org" <mext@ietf.org>, 
> "mif@ietf.org" <mif@ietf.org>, "julien.laganier.IETF@googlemail.com" 
> <julien.laganier.IETF@googlemail.com>, "denghui02@gmail.com" 
> <denghui02@gmail.com> *Subject:* Re: Multiple interfaces problems in 
> MEXT and mif
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> In the current MEXT charter there are several items about supporting
>  multiple interfaces, including the following two:
> 
> - A document explaining the motivations for a node using multiple 
> interfaces and the scenarios where it may end up with multiple global
>  addresses on its interfaces [Informational]
> 
> - An analysis document explaining what are the limitations for mobile
>  hosts using multiple simultaneous Care-of Addresses and Home Agent 
> addresses using Mobile IPv6, whether issues are specific to Mobile 
> IPv6 or not [Informational].
> 
> I think this is very similar to the scope of one of you documents at
>  least, so i would find very strange that the same work is chartered 
> in two different working groups.
> 
> Moreover, we do have wg documents for these two, but we find very 
> hard to find reviewers for those, which makes me think that there is 
> not much interest on these. So, if you find a more motivated crew to 
> do the work, that would be great, we can either do it in mext or 
> soemwhere else, if people feels that needs to be done, but that is 
> certainly not the feeling i am getting from the input in mext
> 
> Regards, marcelo
> 
> 
> 
> Hong Yong-Geun escribi?:
>> 
>> Hi, all in MEXT and mif.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> In IETF mif (Multiple Interface) mailing list 
>> (_https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif_ 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif>),
>> 
>> we now discuss the host which would like to use multiple 
>> interfaces.
>> 
>> I understand that MEXT WG is also related to the use of multiple 
>> interfaces of a host using Mobile IPv6 or a mobile router using 
>> NEMO Basic Support and their variants
>> 
>> MEXT WG is focuing on monami6 related topic (multiple CoA, Multiple
>>  HoA, and Multple HA, etc.,) and extedning Mobile IPv6 and NEMO for
>>  these, but mif is not related to this direction. In mif, source 
>> address selection, routing and DNS control protocol are 
>> consideration items due to multiple interfaces of a host.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> For mif’s scope, Jari Arkko made some comments and classification 
>> of problems.
>> 
>> _http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mif/current/msg00050.html_
>> 
>> Among these classification which includes access selection, split 
>> DNS, configuration reconciliation, routing, address selection, 
>> tunnel multihoming, and the communication way between the host and
>>  the network about their policies regarding all of the above, Jari 
>> said that access selection is already coverd in RFC 5113 and tunnel
>>  multihoming is already covered in MEXT WG work items.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> At monami6 WG in 64th IETF meetinng, I submitted and presented two
>>  Internet Drafts.
>> 
>> - Analysis of multiple interfaces in a Mobile Node
>> 
>> _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-multipleif-mn-pb-statement-00.txt_
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Virtual network interface for multiple interfaces in a Mobile 
>> node using Mobile IPv6
>> 
>> _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt_ 
>> <http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt>
>> 
>> Because these two drafts were not in the monami6 WG’s scope and 
>> virtual network interface draft was
>> 
>> implementation specific, there were not adoped in monami6 WG’s work
>>  items. The intentions of two drafts are supporting multiple 
>> interfaces of a host without extending Mobile IPv6/NEMO.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I think that multiple interfaces problems of a host are related to
>>  both Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues and general network issues. 
>> Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues are related to extending of Mobile 
>> IP/NEMO and these are already studied in MEXT WG and general 
>> network issues which were not related to Mobile IP/NEMO could be 
>> studied in mif. As same manner, I think that my drafts could be 
>> discussed and developed in mif. In the first draft (Analysis 
>> document), I classified multiple interface problems into Mobile 
>> IPv6-sepcific issues, General network issues, and heterogeneous 
>> environment issues.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Including Hui Deng in mif, with regarding to these drafts, they 
>> want to hear comments from MEXT WG’s point of view, because it 
>> seems that these drafts are quite related to monami6/MEXT WG. So, I
>>  ask MEXT to review whether there are
>> 
>> some overlap between MEXT works and my drafts or not.
>> 
>> It is appreciate to give comments.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> 
>> Yong-Geun.
>> 
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