Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif
marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> Thu, 29 January 2009 20:10 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and mif
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makes sense to me Marc Blanchet escribió: > marcelo bagnulo braun a écrit : > >> Hi, >> >> In the current MEXT charter there are several items about supporting >> multiple interfaces, including the following two: >> >> - A document explaining the motivations for a node using multiple >> interfaces and the scenarios where it may end up with multiple >> global addresses on its interfaces [Informational] >> >> - An analysis document explaining what are the limitations for >> mobile hosts using multiple simultaneous Care-of Addresses and Home >> Agent addresses using Mobile IPv6, whether issues are specific to >> Mobile IPv6 or not [Informational]. >> >> I think this is very similar to the scope of one of you documents at >> least, so i would find very strange that the same work is chartered in >> two different working groups. >> >> Moreover, we do have wg documents for these two, but we find very hard >> to find reviewers for those, which makes me think that there is not much >> interest on these. So, if you find a more motivated crew to do the work, >> that would be great, we can either do it in mext or soemwhere else, if >> people feels that needs to be done, but that is certainly not the >> feeling i am getting from the input in mext >> > > to me, the main difference is that the 'multiple interface' issue is not > bound to mobility, and more specifically to mobility protocols > (mobileIPv4, mobileipv6, nemo, ...). > > Therefore, the MIF work is not scoping about mobility protocols and > shall not require mobility protocols. > > I would see that if some part of the MIF work is looking at the mobility > protocols, then these should be then "transfered" to MEXT. > > Marc. > > >> Regards, marcelo >> >> >> >> Hong Yong-Geun escribió: >> >>> Hi, all in MEXT and mif. >>> >>> >>> >>> In IETF mif (Multiple Interface) mailing list >>> (_https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif_ >>> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif>), >>> >>> we now discuss the host which would like to use multiple interfaces. >>> >>> I understand that MEXT WG is also related to the use of multiple >>> interfaces of a host >>> using Mobile IPv6 or a mobile router using NEMO Basic Support and >>> their variants >>> >>> MEXT WG is focuing on monami6 related topic (multiple CoA, Multiple >>> HoA, and Multple HA, etc.,) >>> and extedning Mobile IPv6 and NEMO for these, but mif is not related >>> to this direction. >>> In mif, source address selection, routing and DNS control protocol are >>> consideration items >>> due to multiple interfaces of a host. >>> >>> >>> >>> For mif’s scope, Jari Arkko made some comments and classification of >>> problems. >>> >>> _http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mif/current/msg00050.html_ >>> >>> Among these classification which includes access selection, split DNS, >>> configuration reconciliation, >>> routing, address selection, tunnel multihoming, and the communication >>> way between the host and >>> the network about their policies regarding all of the above, Jari said >>> that access selection is already >>> coverd in RFC 5113 and tunnel multihoming is already covered in MEXT >>> WG work items. >>> >>> >>> >>> At monami6 WG in 64th IETF meetinng, I submitted and presented two >>> Internet Drafts. >>> >>> - Analysis of multiple interfaces in a Mobile Node >>> >>> _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-multipleif-mn-pb-statement-00.txt_ >>> >>> - Virtual network interface for multiple interfaces in a Mobile node >>> using Mobile IPv6 >>> >>> _http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt_ >>> <http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-hong-virtualif-mn-mipv6-00.txt> >>> >>> Because these two drafts were not in the monami6 WG’s scope and >>> virtual network interface draft was >>> >>> implementation specific, there were not adoped in monami6 WG’s work >>> items. The intentions of two drafts >>> are supporting multiple interfaces of a host without extending Mobile >>> IPv6/NEMO. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think that multiple interfaces problems of a host are related to >>> both Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues and >>> general network issues. Mobile IP/NEMO specific issues are related to >>> extending of Mobile IP/NEMO and >>> these are already studied in MEXT WG and general network issues which >>> were not related to >>> Mobile IP/NEMO could be studied in mif. As same manner, I think that >>> my drafts could be discussed and >>> developed in mif. In the first draft (Analysis document), I classified >>> multiple interface problems into >>> Mobile IPv6-sepcific issues, General network issues, and heterogeneous >>> environment issues. >>> >>> >>> >>> Including Hui Deng in mif, with regarding to these drafts, they want >>> to hear comments from MEXT WG’s point of view, >>> because it seems that these drafts are quite related to monami6/MEXT >>> WG. So, I ask MEXT to review whether there are >>> >>> some overlap between MEXT works and my drafts or not. >>> >>> It is appreciate to give comments. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best regards. >>> >>> Yong-Geun. >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> mif mailing list >> mif@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mif >> > > > _______________________________________________ MEXT mailing list MEXT@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mext
- [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT and m… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Thierry Ernst
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hui Deng
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [MEXT] Multiple interfaces problems in MEXT a… Hong Yong-Geun
- Re: [MEXT] [mif] Multiple interfaces problems in … Hong Yong-Geun