Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group"

+1
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 6:43 PM Jon Millican <jmillican@fb.com> wrote:
>
> This discussion came up again at the hackathon, and I think there was a fair bit of sympathy for the idea of at least changing the protocol name to MSG; for the reasons described in this thread.
>
> Personally I'd be keen to have something slightly more uniquely Googleable than MSG, but I don't think that MLS is any better in this regard.
>
> On 27/03/2018, 19:03, "MLS on behalf of jeff.hodges@kingsmountain.com" <mls-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of jeff.hodges@kingsmountain.com> wrote:
>
>     +1
>
>     Quoting Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>:
>     > On Sun 2018-03-25 21:33:42 +0200, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
>     >> I do not believe the name should be changed:
>     >>
>     >> 1. MLS is a protocol that is equally suited for pairwise messaging
>     >> as it is for group messaging
>     >> 2. The MLS name is elegant and mirrors TLS.
>     >
>     > "Mirroring TLS" is exactly what i'm afraid of.  This is a radically
>     > different protocol, performing demonstrably different work at a
>     > different position within the stack, with a different view on what
>     > interoperability even means.
>     >
>     > Let's make it very clear that this *is not* TLS, and that it is not a
>     > substitute for TLS.
>     >
>     > The protocol described in the documents is *not* equally-suited for
>     > pairwise messaging -- it has a number of subtle features that are
>     > included solely because it is intended to handle group messaging.  As
>     > other people have written upthread, the protocol this nascent WG aims to
>     > describe will handle pairwise messaging as a special case of group
>     > messaging.  It is not designed intentionally for pairwise messaging and
>     > if it were, it would have a different design.
>     >
>     >           --dkg
>
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