Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group"
Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net> Mon, 26 March 2018 08:24 UTC
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From: Dave Cridland <dave@cridland.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 09:24:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group"
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I believe we should make it out of wood. It's a renewable resource and, if well-treated, will be more than adequate for keeping the effects of weather off the cycles stored inside. On 24 March 2018 at 11:27, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> wrote: > Thanks for all the work that has gone into the proposed MLS architecture > and protocol drafts already. > > As we move toward working group formation, i'm a little bit concerned > that the ostensible name of the project ("message layer security") > doesn't adequately describe the most salient features. > > We spent most of the time at the BoF in IETF 101 London talking about > the design of the group key agreement scheme and the strong > cryptographic properties we want it to provide -- and i suspect that > most of the work in any formed WG will center around that problem. > > So it seems odd to me that the word "group" doesn't appear in the name > "MLS". > > I'm no good at acronyms, but i'll just throw out two alternatives: > > MSG: Messaging Security for Groups > > MESSAGE: Message Encryption and Security Standard for Asynchronous Group > Environments > > I hope since the WG isn't yet formed, it's not too late to consider a > change to the name. We ought to be up front about the group-specific > context that we're talking about here, as we already have a security > layer that works for messages passing between two endpoints > synchronously (TLS) and it'd be nice to clearly carve up the territory. > > --dkg > > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls > >
- [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Shivan
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Jon Millican
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Katriel Cohn-Gordon
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Raphael Robert
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Suhas Nandakumar
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Nadim Kobeissi
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Dave Cridland
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Rich Persaud
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Richard Barnes
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Richard Barnes
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" jeff.hodges
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Jon Millican
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Richard Barnes
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [MLS] MLS: the WG name should include "group" Robert Moskowitz