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Hi all,

There's been oblique discussion of this draft, thanks to Alec's citation 
in his recent effort.

My co-authors and I thought we should go ahead and share a -01 version 
with the group. Most of our feedback so far has been around better 
definition of an end, so we broke that into its own sub-section.

The goal is to clearly define e2ee in three different ways: constituent 
formal definition, functionalities, and user expectations. This assumes 
a technology is defined by its properties. Conversely, we are not trying 
to define properties by the technology in use, eg "this app is secure 
because it's e2ee", which is totally valid. But without our effort, it's 
becomes circular.

Lastly I'll just mention that while we aim to define e2ee, we also end 
up defining a few other terms as well. It's perhaps worth considering 
this a terminology draft for the mls working group, as Raphael just 
suggested. We are certainly open to that, so please help us by opening 
issues or sending pull requests to help solidify those terms: 
https://github.com/mallory/e2ee/edit/main/draft-e2ee.md.

Any and all reviews welcome,

-Mallory



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Subject: 	New Version Notification for draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-01.txt
Date: 	Fri, 07 May 2021 07:48:53 -0700
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To: 	Sofía Celi <cherenkov@riseup.net>et>, Fred Baker 
<fredbaker.IETF@gmail.com>om>, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>om>, 
Gurshabad Grover <gurshabad@cis-india.org>rg>, Mallory Knodel 
<mknodel@cdt.org>rg>, Olaf Kolkman <kolkman@isoc.org>rg>, Sofia Celi 
<cherenkov@riseup.net>




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Name: draft-knodel-e2ee-definition
Revision: 01
Title: Definition of End-to-end Encryption
Document date: 2021-05-07
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 12
URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-01.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-knodel-e2ee-definition/
Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-knodel-e2ee-definition
Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-01
Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-knodel-e2ee-definition-01

Abstract:
End-to-end encryption (E2EE) is an application of cryptography in
communications systems between endpoints. E2EE systems are unique in
providing features of confidentiality, integrity and authenticity for
users. Improvements to E2EE strive to maximise the system's security
while balancing usability and availability. Users of E2EE
communications expect trustworthy providers of secure implementations
to respect and protect their right to whisper.



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