Re: [mmox] The Story So Far...
"Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)" <infinity@lindenlab.com> Wed, 18 February 2009 00:59 UTC
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since when? the current implementation does, but the protocol definition is pretty explicit that you cannot assume that just because you authenticate to "host a" that the cap that will be granted to rez in world or to access inventory won't be on "host b" or "host c". I'm happy to start the discussion about whether identity should explicitly be divorced from authentication, so identification can be deferred to an even different host. people have been talking about them being in the same administrative domain because we have no OAuth like mechanism defined to provide a non-forgeable authenticator that can be consumed by a third party. that is to say... the spec does not mandate that identity, presence and inventory be managed by the same administrative domain, it's just that doing that seems to give peeps the security heebie-jeebies. what you are asking appears to be the same as a Google service exposing a sensitive resource (maybe the right to read your gmail) to Yahoo! or Microsoft, but not REQUIRING that Yahoo! or Microsoft provide an authenticator indicating they have that right. one of the reasons we're participating in the IETF is the wealth of experience this brings us in terms of people familiar with all sorts of enabling technologies (including things like TLS, HTTP, OAuth, etc.) On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Hurliman, John wrote: > The agent domain concept takes several independent services > (identity, presence, inventory) and lumps them together into a > single trust domain. This inhibits the development of a widely > distributed ecosystem like we find on the web today, and is really > only convenient for large virtual world service providers that > already have a vertical stack of services. It also drags in the > assumption that there must be a backend communication layer between > services such as inventory and simulation regions.
- [mmox] The Story So Far... Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Suzy Deffeyes
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Mark P. McCahill
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz