Re: [mmox] The Story So Far...
Suzy Deffeyes <suzyq@pobox.com> Wed, 18 February 2009 21:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mmox] The Story So Far...
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Hurliman, John <john.hurliman@intel.com>wrote: > The HyperGrid implementation in OpenSim today establishes a full trust link > between two separate service stacks (grids). It's a very clever way of > combining grids, but doesn't address how untrusted administrative domains > interact with each other at all. I don't understand why you keep comparing > Agent Domain and HyperGrid. > > My understanding of the Agent Domain model is that it maps every trust > relationship between grids to a policy decision. This is important for the > business case of company X and company Y creating a partnership that is > explicitly configured, but glazes over the 99.999% use case of moving from > untrusted grid A to untrusted grid B. I haven't seen any work from AWG > addressing the possibility of eliminating all grid<->grid communication ( > google.com doesn't communicate with the links I click, the browser is > perfectly capable of managing its own state). For the google 2d browsing analogy, I don't need to see a representation of other people that also happen to be visiting that same link, and I also don't have a name and 3D representation of myself that I want to remain consistent on my screen as I go from link to link. In our MMOX space, it can be desirable to have a consistent representation of self that also appears the same to others in the same region. Not always, but for a fair number of use cases that involve teleportation it does. I'm not sure how that can happen if we eliminate all grid to grid communication. Maybe Agent Domain type implementations 'squirt' too much state along with an agent that is being transferred into a region. Maybe we need to tease that apart. I think the actual OGP implementation right now just squirts your name, UUID, a few bits, and desired location into the region. Suzy Deffeyes IBM
- [mmox] The Story So Far... Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Suzy Deffeyes
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Mark P. McCahill
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz