Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification
Dave CROCKER <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Mon, 06 July 2009 20:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification
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Mike Dickson wrote: > I like the handle system because its been around for a while, proven to > scale reasonably well, etc. So, the metric I use for scaling, when talking about Internet standards, is many millions of independent users and at least many thousands of independent administrations, all participating in the same system. In other words, a single integrated service that is operated by a very large number of independent groups and that is used by a couple of orders of magnitude more of independent groups and people. I know there are large handle systems, but I don't know of any that satisfy these criteria. (By "don't know" I am asking to be educated; I truly don't know that much about the range of installations for handle.) For a system that does not already satisfy this requirement, the burden is to explain why the world should believe that the system will be able to. And again, I mean that as a serious request, not an implied criticism or dismissal. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net
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