Re: [mmox] The Story So Far...
Kajikawa Jeremy <belxjander@gmail.com> Thu, 19 February 2009 12:37 UTC
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From: Kajikawa Jeremy <belxjander@gmail.com>
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Is this approach where each system can provide "own proxy" for the non-native clients that can enter ? This would allow the commercial systems to remain closed while also supporting the "open" clients as well. But then there is the whole "mind share war" between closed and open systems as it is, and I think the open systems are going to breach and break the closed systems eventually. but thats just my own reading of the following... How accurate is my reading? On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 10:28 +0100, Jesrad wrote: > The approach used in IEEE 1278 seems to differ radically from the > function OGP is assumed to permit, from a glance: as you said it lets > otherwise incompatible domains of simulation (call them grids) > exchange just the amount and type of information needed to remain > consistent between themselves. > > Transposed to a VW, this would mean you can use the SL client to > connect to an SL grid, then your current simulator connects you > through to other environments (WoW, Solipsis, etc.) and does the > "translation". If the "foreign" domain/grid does not support some > Agent Domain services or something else, then the "local" domain can > then provide its own as a substitute, while the client is tasked with > interpreting any native data that rides through (like 3D > representation and sound format). > > Is it right ? Maybe detailing a specific example would help pointing > out what should be and shouldn't be in such a protocol. (We're trying > to minimize the amount or complexity of translation required both at > the gateway and the client, aren't we ?) > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Jon Watte <jwatte@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dan Olivares wrote: > >> > >> objection that I've heard so far is that it requires a lot more work > >> (service calls?) to develop a shared scene graph and requires a > >> significant more amount of trust then an A-->B teleport does. > >> > > > > There is no shared scene graph. Each server simulates "its" objects, and > > translates from the "interop" protocol to its internal system at the > > gateway. Think of it like a more modern version of IEEE 1278 (which has been > > a great success as far as interoperable distributed simulation goes). > > > > Sincerely, > > > > jw > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mmox mailing list > > mmox@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmox > > > _______________________________________________ > mmox mailing list > mmox@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmox
- [mmox] The Story So Far... Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Suzy Deffeyes
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Mark P. McCahill
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz