Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification

Jon Watte <jwatte@gmail.com> Mon, 06 July 2009 18:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification
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Mike Dickson wrote:
> I'm not at all convinced that your DNS example is a non-problem.
> Companies merge all the time and how name spaces migrate or merge is a
> real problem. 
>   

My question to you is: Do you think that it is a technical problem to 
keep a DNS domain alive, if there were an incentive to do so? My 
assertion is that it isn't. Thus, if you structure your URL well 
(typically use a custom DNS for all your asset URLs) then they can 
survive for as long as you want them to.

http://assets.jonwattesvirtualworldserver.net/uuid/abf3-dd4c-baadf00d-123456789abcdef0

Assuming I want to pay the $10/year for 
"jonwattesvirtualworldserver.net" then this will survive forever.

Admittedly, my main concern with the handle system is not technical, but 
the fact that it costs $100 to get started, and then $50/year, which is 
5x-10x more than it costs with a DNS based solution (both solutions need 
additional web hosting, too).

Sincerely,

jw





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