Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario

Thats great. I think we need all the running implementations we can get. To
me, actually using an implementation is very meaningful.

The other thing that I think this group is going to be concerned with is
describing a set of 'well-known" ports for clients and servers.

One of the things I notice is a significant problem in folks getting clients
and servers setup with various firewalls and as I understand it, the IETF is
concerned with making recommendations for "well-known" ports. This very well
may mean a change in some or all of the virtual worlds as we move forward in
defining a common set of ports for this work.

Charles Krinke
OpenSim Core Developer
OSGrid Director

On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:40 AM, David W Levine <dwl@us.ibm.com> wrote:

>
> I'm also in the process of shaking out the bugs in a OGP complient AD for
> the OpenSim codebase. (built as an opensim servcie, cloned off of the user
> service) This will give us a second complete example of the design as well
> as a place to experiment with variations.
>
> - David W. Levine
> ~ Zha Ewry (ISL)
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>  *Charles Krinke <charles.krinke@gmail.com>*
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> 03/13/2009 02:19 PM
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> "Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)" <infinity@lindenlab.com>
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> MMOX-IETF <mmox@ietf.org>
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> Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario
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> Thank you for correcting my mis-perception, Meadhbh (Infinity) that OGP is
> alive and well on the Linden end. I would urge folks to use it and test its
> capabilities and limits on an ongoing basis.
>
> Any implementations that are being used helps gain momentum and confidence
> in any implemented solution for interop so all of this is to our mutual
> advantage.
>
> Charles Krinke
> OpenSim Core Developer
> OSGrid Director
>
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity) <*
> infinity@lindenlab.com* <infinity@lindenlab.com>> wrote:
> which is to say... we're not adding new features to the OGP test grid, and
> probably won't 'til we more fully specify them and get feedback from our
> beta testers.
>
> during the course of last summer's beta, we learned a lot and received a
> fair amount of community input. submitting OGP to the IETF standardization
> process is part of the process of continuing OGP development. in short... we
> think the protocol for auth, teleport and event queue are fully baked.
> but... we want to get more input from the community ( especially from people
> who participate in last summer's beta and IETF "regulars" who may have more
> experience wedging things like OAuth / OpenID into existing protocols. ) and
> we want this process to take place in an IETF managed venue. and we're
> thinking that before we assign resources to add new features to the OGP test
> grid, we want to have a better idea of the end definition of these services.
>
> to recap... we want to get another round of commentary on the existing OGP
> drafts before adding new bits of code to the grid and to the viewer. and we
> want to have enough time for everyone (OpenSim, PyOGP, viewer developers,
> etc.) to receive and integrate new protocol definitions.
>
> -cheers
> -meadhbh
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Bill Humphries wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Charles Krinke wrote:
>
> I have seen OGP work. I have also heard from a couple of folks that LL has
> stopped the test with the betagrid. If this is not true, please correct me.
> If it is true, may I suggest it might be to LL's advantage to start it up
> again and let folks use it.
>
> Charles,
>
> Linden Lab has been keeping the OGP agent server and regions up, but not
> doing active development.
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