Re: [mmox] The Story So Far...
Jon Watte <jwatte@gmail.com> Thu, 19 February 2009 00:34 UTC
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Charles Krinke wrote: > In any case, "Can we define a message format for avatar presence that > contains fields to allow 3D interactive browsing that is reasonable > for the SecondLife and OpenSim teams and also flexible enough to be > useful for other teams?" Re-phrase that as "that is reasonable for all likely adopters of the standard" -- why special case Second Life or Open Sim? So, what is an avatar anyway? I think it has one or more meshes (that are not standard), draped over a skeleton (that is not standard), with one or more textures applied (that are not standard). Avatars also represent users, which have identity. Avatars can move (physically, with collision detection), animate (interactions, emotes), voice communicate and text chat. If you can send that information ([identity, mesh, texture, skeleton] as set-up, and [movement, animation, interactions, voice and text chat] at runtime) then do you have an interoperable avatar? And, if so, what separates an avatar from another animated, movable object? Could the same way that avatars are interoperating be used to interoperate other simulated objects? From a remote systems' point of view, there's not that much difference between a human-driven avatar, and a tumbling rock -- the remote system can't be expected to run the simulation for either one, so it needs to have that stream of behavior to represent it. As far as I know Wonderland, Qwaq, Multiverse and other possible adopters, the above representations maps fairly straightforward to their systems, although any system will have to expect to write adaption code to accept "arbitrary" external meshes as avatars. Sincerely, jw
- [mmox] The Story So Far... Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Suzy Deffeyes
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Dan Olivares
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Hurliman, John
- [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Mark P. McCahill
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] The Story So Far... Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Jesrad
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Hurliman, John
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Gareth Nelson
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Lawson English
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] where is identity @ in all this? Christian Scholz