Re: [mmox] mmox Digest, Vol 1, Issue 113

Gareth Nelson <gareth@litesim.com> Mon, 23 February 2009 16:44 UTC

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I'm just going to make 2 comments:
1 - This is getting way way out of scope
2 - My current favourite author makes a living through creative
commons licensed sci-fi novels, so yes - you can make a living without
a copyright monopoly, but that brings me back to point 1

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:39 PM, dyerbrookme@juno.com
<dyerbrookme@juno.com> wrote:
>>Either the content creators wake up and accept that each Virtual World
> IS different along with that eventually the web itself will become 3D and people are going to need  their services a hell of a lot more for throwaway or personalized items.
>
> Well, actually, uh, it's not the content creators that have to "wake up" these days, ostensibly banged over the head by the "see if copy it" problem. No, it's the platform providers waking up (Facebook TOS) to the need to ensure the permissions dimentions of commerce or fail. And while the web itself will become 3-D, there is nothing inherently scientifically required that Web 2.0 or 3.0 lock-step follow the iteration of Web 1.0 where forcibly interoperability and forcible de-walling of gardens was somehow the privileged norm.
>
> There's also, again, an ideological imperative here coming from the copyleftist Kevin Kelly "8 generatives" with the "customization will make you a living" shill and the shill of "just keep making new items faster people throw them away anyway, stay one step ahead of the hackers". Again, this isn't scientifically or even journalistically proven, that people don't have the support of government or corporate funding already actually make livings this way.
>
> The virtual worlds that actually make money both for their providers and their users, and not just special customers behind government or corporate firewalls don't have the luxury of imposing stone soup on everyone. Somebody has to grow the turnip and get paid for it, you don't make an economy by everybody bringing a carrot they swiped from another's garden.
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