Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification

Tommi Laukkanen <tommi.s.e.laukkanen@gmail.com> Sat, 04 July 2009 12:31 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mmox] Global Object Identification
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Hello

I gather from this and previous discussions that there are two wide
spread systems for global object indetification:

1) Handle System (from CNRI) - Global identifier to service resolving
network in analogy with DNS. Adding your data type to the network has
a cost. How does the cost scale with number of objects?

2) Extensible Resource Identifier (XRI) - The url for XRD document
containing service locations can be calculated from XRI identifier.

I guess these two approaches are in theory the two viable ways to do
global identifiers. Either build global resolving / register network
or include enough information in the identifier to resolve url
directly from it.

Are there other viable implementations? If not should we dive deeper
in comparing these two alternatives?

-tommi