Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario
"Mystical Demina" <MysticalDemina@xrgrid.com> Thu, 12 March 2009 22:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario
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Here is what I predict. I would submit that any company that opens up its computer to external access is going to require you to accept a terms and agreement that states anything you bring and use on their computer that you have ownership of or at least license to make copies and the company hosting the virtual world will not trust a protocol to define that. They may agree that this content is only cached and will be removed when you leave unless other terms are arranged. Additionally they would make you accept that they are not liable for any use of it and can not be held liable in any damages that may occur and you are accepting all such responsibility. This means they would need to know who you are to hold you responsible, which means you will probably have to make an account and log in. At least if it is my company and my virtual world that is what I would require. On the other hand once companies can move across virtual world boundaries and sales people can visit different virtual worlds of other companies to show products there will be a huge amount of free content as each company creates virtual versions of their products and uses them for advertising which will increase supply of available content. But also driving down the prices of content and killing most of the market. Ultimately I believe it will be up to the person to make a decision as to if I have rights to use this content in that place, or do I have rights to copy this content to that place as we do with any software license we buy or any digital item we purchase or download off of the internet. I could be wrong. Kevin Tweedy SL Mystical Demina _____ From: mmox-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmox-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ann Otoole Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 3:09 PM To: MMOX-IETF Subject: Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario This happens to also be where intellectual property licensing becomes a factor because the content acquired in C may not be licensed for cross server/grid/zone/whatever use. So the "protocol" or whatever you wish to call it will have to include the payload package for licensing data and all participating server/grid/zone/whatever agree to not allow instantiation of said content unless it is licensed for such propagation. Today people openly and blatantly use a product called Second Inventory (a client) to steal content by exporting it from Second Life and importing it into a different "grid" where there are no licensing schemes, exporting it back out, and then importing it back into Second Life as the sole creator for the express purpose of selling content without a license. I guess you could also call that a use case eh? _____ From: Rob Lanphier <robla@lindenlab.com> To: Jon Watte <jwatte@gmail.com> Cc: MMOX-IETF <mmox@ietf.org> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:05:35 PM Subject: Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario On 3/12/09 9:13 AM, Jon Watte wrote: > For example, the assumption that client A can even talk to servers B > and C seems to be totally implicit, but can't be assumed in the > general world. Yes, one can assume client A can talk to servers B and C if we actually go about the work of defining a standard client-server protocol spelling out how the client is expected to behave in that transaction. Rob _______________________________________________ mmox mailing list mmox@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmox
- [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Rob Lanphier
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Bill Humphries
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario David W Levine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- [mmox] My reading of draft-lentczner-ogp-base-00 Latha Serevi
- Re: [mmox] My reading of draft-lentczner-ogp-base… Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario eh2th-mmox
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario eh2th-mmox
- [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the Gener… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Frisby, Adam
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Christian Scholz