Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the Generic Client model
Kajikawa Jeremy <belxjander@gmail.com> Sun, 15 March 2009 08:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the Generic Client model
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I agree with Charles in this... the more choice we offer the more will be adoptable in one manner or another... I see OGP for the Client<->Environment connection and LESS as being the Server<->Server connection. I dont see these directly competing but actually becoming to *require* the other so what makes them directly competitive? just my current semi-ignorant view of things... Jeremy On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 16:56 -0800, Charles Krinke wrote: > As long as this group adopts ports and protocols that do not preclude > OGP, HyperGrid, MXP or other, I see no reason why LESS could not > become viable. > > As we know, it will be the users of our virtual worlds technologies > that will ultimately determine the viability (or lack thereof) of > interoperability. > > It seems to me that concentrating on a flexible enough protocol to > allow all the ideas described (and more) to bloom is a reasonable > solution. > > At the very least, there need to be two competing protocols, should > this group feel bound for more definition to allow the users and the > market to decide what is good or not. > > But, my feeling is flexibility to allow all the ideas and more > presented makes a compelling argument. > > -- > Charles Krinke > OpenSim Core Developer > OSGrid Director > _______________________________________________ > mmox mailing list > mmox@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmox
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- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Rob Lanphier
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Bill Humphries
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario David W Levine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- [mmox] My reading of draft-lentczner-ogp-base-00 Latha Serevi
- Re: [mmox] My reading of draft-lentczner-ogp-base… Meadhbh Hamrick (Infinity)
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario eh2th-mmox
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Ann Otoole
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario eh2th-mmox
- [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the Gener… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mystical Demina
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Kajikawa Jeremy
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Frisby, Adam
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Mark Lentczner
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Jon Watte
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Morgaine
- Re: [mmox] 3-world OGP interop scenario Charles Krinke
- Re: [mmox] One more time: The LESS model vs the G… Christian Scholz