Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> Fri, 14 June 2013 20:08 UTC
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Cc: Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com>, mmusic <mmusic@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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On 6/14/13 3:51 PM, Mary Barnes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Ari Keränen <ari.keranen@ericsson.com> wrote: >> On 6/14/13 10:02 PM, Emil Ivov wrote: >>> On 14.06.13, 20:20, Ari Keränen wrote: >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> Given the guidance from the RTCWEB WG chairs that the "no-plan" >>>> discussion should essentially happen at the RTCWEB WG, the MMUSIC >>>> interim meeting on June 17th will be focused on Plan A and Plan B. >>> >>> I assume this implies that MMUSIC considers it entirely appropriate to >>> use SDP for signalling multiple streams the way No Plan suggests (i.e. >>> one m= line can carry as many RTP flows as it likes). So much so, that >>> no further discussion is necessary on the subject. >>> >>> Could you please confirm that I am reading this properly? >> >> This means that the interim time should be used mainly to discuss plan A vs >> plan B merits, not whether RTCWEB should use A/B, or no-plan. > [MB] So what happens if RTCWEB decides that they prefer "no-plan"? In > that case, MMUSIC will have wasted their time deciding A versus B > since there aren't hard requirements from other potential users of > this SDP based multi-stream signaling mechanism. We are knee-deep in here already, so an extra 3 hour conference call seems like a small price to pay for potentially making progress (and at the very least get more clarity on the Plan A and Plan B proposals based on "higher than e-mail bandwidth" presentation and discussion) > CLUE isn't quite > there yet. Now, it's possible either A or B would be okay, but that's > not a given right now. > > I certainly understand the frustration of the chairs in trying to > manage this work since a lot of relevant discussion has been on the > RTCWEB WG mailing list. And, I do certainly agree that you all do > have a milestone for this work, I just think this meeting is premature > until there is indeed consensus in the RTCWEB WG that no plan is off > the table and the CLUE WG is a point that it's clear how A versus B > fit into their solution and whether possibly a plan C might be more > optimal. [/MB] The downside seems limited, and we know there is a lot of interest in trying to make progress. Thanks -- Flemming >> >> Cheers, >> Ari >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > . >
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agen… Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Randell Jesup