Re: [MMUSIC] ICE/DTLS optimization (was: Merging ICE aggressive and regular nomination)

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Sun, 03 August 2014 20:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] ICE/DTLS optimization (was: Merging ICE aggressive and regular nomination)
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On 3 August 2014 11:06, Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote:
> Note that it the actual upside here may turn out to be somewhat limited
> given TLS 1.3's zero-RTT handshake modes.

That's a good point.  We've talked about loading the material
necessary to do 0RTT into signaling.