Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multiplex?
"Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com> Tue, 11 December 2012 18:53 UTC
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From: Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multiplex?
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> -----Original Message----- > From: mmusic-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mmusic-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 2:34 AM > To: salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com; mmusic@ietf.org > Cc: randell@jesup.org > Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multiplex? > > Hi Sal, > > Salvatore Loreto wrote: > > > >based on the current stack the SCTP traffic is the only traffic that > >runs directly over the DTLS stack. > >What I am trying to do is to include the Randell Jesup (I am including > >him in CC as I am not sure he is subscribed to this mailing list) > > suggestion to give the possibility to have multiple SCTP > >*associations* running on top of the same DTLS session and of course > >providing a way to signal it in SDP. > > > >to be clear: at moment WebRTC allows only one SCTP association per PC, > >so this is something that would be nice to define just to be ready for > the future. > > > > It's a bit unclear to me what the benefit of this would be. SCTP itself > allows multiple streams to be transported in parallel within a single > SCTP association. So, in what type of situations would we need multiple > parallel SCTP associations? I thought the main point of SCTP is that it > provides the parallelism and multiplexing by itself. > > In other words: I do understand the desire to multiplex RTP and SCTP > within the same UDP flow, so we can for instance reduce the number of > needed NAT/FW bindings. Sending bulk data (SCTP) and interactive audio/video over the same port will break prioritization of the audio/video flow above the bulk data. > I also understand why multiple independent non- > HOL blocking streams within SCTP are useful for applications. But I > don't yet understand the additional benefit of multiple parallel SCTP > associations. No doubt it can be technically done, but to what purposes? One example: transferring a big file while, at the same time, doing screen sharing or an instant message chat. -d
- [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multiplex? Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Salvatore Loreto
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Markus.Isomaki
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Randell Jesup
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] SCTP question: Where does it multipl… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] RESTART: SCTP question: Where does i… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] RESTART: SCTP question: Where does i… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] RESTART: SCTP question: Where does i… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] RESTART: SCTP question: Where does i… Dan Wing
- Re: [MMUSIC] RESTART: SCTP question: Where does i… Paul Kyzivat