Re: [MMUSIC] NEED WG CONSENSUS: media-loopback is all-or-nothing

We normally try and provide general solutions rather than focus on 
specific use cases. Looking at media streams in general, we negotiate 
and accept/reject them independently (and likewise for preconditions). 
Why should this be any different ?

Thanks

-- Flemming

On 11/20/12 5:09 PM, Richard L. Barnes wrote:
> I lean in favor of YES, because it seems to be much simpler and address the most pressing use cases.
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> (I haven't been involved deeply in the discussion, though; is there something I'm missing?)
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> On Nov 20, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Flemming Andreasen <fandreas@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> One more "NO" vote - I also don't see a reason to mandate such a restriction as it may limit the use cases.
>>
>> -- Flemming
>>
>> On 11/20/12 1:42 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
>>> NO
>>>
>>> *Why* should the draft be limited this way if it need not be?
>>>
>>>     Thanks,
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>> On 11/20/12 1:16 PM, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> during IESG review of the media-loopback draft, a discussion arose regarding the language around indicating media-loopback support per media description (i.e., per m-line), in sections 3.1 and 3.2.
>>>>
>>>> My interpretation/understanding was we were requiring ALL m-lines to indicate media-loopback; in other words it's an all-or-nothing in both the offer+answer, and either every media stream is looped back, or none are.  However the text currently doesn't make this clear, and it could be argued either way, with pro's/con's either way too; so I'd like the WG's consensus on whether it should in fact be an all-or-none approach, or not.
>>>>
>>>> Please respond to this email by **Tuesday, December 4th** with a "YES" if the draft should mandate ALL media be looped-back, or "NO" if it should allow a hybrid approach of some streams being looped while others are not.
>>>>
>>>> For reference, the draft is here:
>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-media-loopback-24
>>>>
>>>> -hadriel
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