Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map RTP data to m- line is based on PT?
Colin Perkins <csp@csperkins.org> Sat, 29 June 2013 12:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map RTP data to m- line is based on PT?
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On 26 Jun 2013, at 13:20, Christer Holmberg wrote: > Hi Colin, > >>> Emil suggested that the default, "MTI", mechanism for mapping RTP data to m- lines should be based on PT. Applications are >>> allowed to use whatever other mechanisms, but usage of such mechanisms must be negotiated (or, applications need to have >>> some other means knowing that the other endpoint support such mechanisms). >>> >>> Q3: Do we need to specify a default, MTI, mechanism for mapping RTP data to m- lines? >> >> I think the BUNDLE specification needs to define how RTP flows can be associated with m= lines, but ought not mandate that applications >> do so. The document that describes how WebRTC uses BUNDLE might want to mandate that WebRTC applications use the mechanism. > > Note that there is a separate discussion, BUNDLE DISCUSION: Always mandate mechanism to map received data to m- line?, on whether BUNDLE shall mandate that the receiver must always be able to map received data to an m- line. > > So far only Paul has commented on that discussion, but I assume it's just a question of hours before your input will be posted? :) > >>> Q4: If Q3, do we mandate applications to support, and use (unless applications are made aware of other mechanisms supported by all endpoints) PT for mapping received RTP media? >> >> I think we should specify how the combination of PT values and a=ssrc: lines can be used to associate RTP data with m= lines, for applications that want to do so. >> >> I don't think just using PT values is sufficient, since the PT space is small (I can imagine applications that want to send lots of flows using >> the same codec configuration, and it's more natural to give them all the same PT and use a=ssrc: lines to distinguish). > > If you run out of PTs, and have to re-use the same PT in multiple m- lines (for the same codec configuration, though), you will obviously need something else for mapping RTP to m- lines, and we should probably state that. > > But, my take from your reply is that you don't think we should specify a default mechanism. We CAN describe different mechanisms (PT, PT+SSRC etc), but it would be up to applications to decide what to use. Correct? No. Specifying a "default" suggests that there might be alternative ways of doing this. If we specify an algorithm for mapping RTP flows to m= lines, we should specify a single algorithm. We don't need multiple ways of doing this. I think that single algorithm should look at the PT and the a=ssrc: lines. Just looking at the PT isn't sufficient. -- Colin Perkins http://csperkins.org/
- [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map RTP d… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Colin Perkins
- Re: [MMUSIC] DECISION: Default mechanism to map R… Paul Kyzivat