Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Tunnelling DTLS in SDP

Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Mon, 11 July 2016 16:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Tunnelling DTLS in SDP
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I would definitely like to proceed with this. There are certain issues
related to forking and new associations being setup by the answering party,
but I think they are resolvable. On the other hand, the benefits of reduced
call setup up time definitely make this worthwhile.

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Roman Shpount

On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 8:22 AM, Cullen Jennings <fluffy@cisco.com> wrote:

>
> Quick questions for folks …  is an idea that we should explore a bit
> deeper before making decisions about it? or should we not proceed? or
> should we proceed? Just looking for feedback on where this should go next
>
> Thanks, Cullen
>
>
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:10 AM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
>
>> I wanted to call your attention to a draft I just published with a
>> possibly stupid
>> idea.
>>
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rescorla-dtls-in-sdp-00
>>
>> A nontrivial fraction of call setup time in WebRTC is the DTLS handshake.
>> This document describes how to piggyback the first few handshake messages
>> in the SDP offer/answer exchange, thus reducing latency.
>>
>> Comments welcome.
>>
>>
> One other issue I thought off was that with DTLS SDP either offerer or
> answerer can start a new DTLS association. When answerer starts a new
> session it will have exactly the same problems as forking, since this will
> create multiple DTLS sessions with the same client random. This can be
> solved with some sort of fallback mechanism to either regular DTLS setup or
> to sending a ClientHello in the answer.
>
> Regards,
> _____________
> Roman Shpount
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