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Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Updating JSEP and BUNDLE

Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Tue, 26 January 2021 19:17 UTC

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From: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:16:34 -0800
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To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Updating JSEP and BUNDLE
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On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 11:02 AM Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg=
40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ...
>
> >> Secondly, I can definitely live with the work being done in a revivied
> >> specifically charted RTCWeb WG. However, SDP Offer/Answer is used in
> several
> >> places for different usages. Something which was considred very much
> when
> >> developing BUNDLE. Thus, I think it is relevant that RTCWeb will keep
> MMUSIC
> >> informed about their work. So that RTCWeb doesn't end up missing an
> important
> >> aspect of this, a run into issue when forming the IETF consensus needed
> to
> >> publish this document.
> >
> > I think the revised charter takes this into account.  Please let me know
> if it needs any other corrections.
>
> It needs to be clear that the charter is about fixing the misalignment
> between the BUNDLE and JSEP specifications - nothing more, nothing less.
>
>
As noted in the spec blurb, we also need to consider the existing
deployments and how any changes at this point may affect them. Specs that
implementors can't implement are not useful.

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