Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda

Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Sat, 15 June 2013 15:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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+1

On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> +1
> 
> On 6/15/13 5:39 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>> Not on A vs B, but on the agenda:
>> 
>> This time allocation is:
>> 
>> - 20 mins administrativia
>> - 120 mins presentation
>> - 40 mins discussion
>> 
>> I do not think this is a wise allocation. It maximizes the time given to
>> plan "owners" to present their viewpoints, and minimizes the time
>> avaliable for people who do not "own a plan" to present a viewpoint.
>> People who come to the meeting SHOULD have read the drafts beforehand.
>> If not, listening to 60 mins of presentation won't make them understand
>> the issues.
>> 
>> I would suggest instead:
>> 
>> - 10 min administrativia (agenda bash)
>> - 15 min Plan A presentation
>> - 15 min Plan A clarification questions
>> - 15 min Plan B presentation
>> - 15 min Plan B clarification questions
>> - 10 min presentaton on "what questions do we need to answer" (by the
>> chairs)
>> - 90 min discussion on answering the questions (structured by the chairs)
>> - 10 min administrativia (wrapup)
>> 
>> (and yes, this is enough time that one could fit in a slot for "no plan"
>> too)
>> 
>> (I'm HOPING that the draft agenda is intended to show "presentation and
>> discussion" for each draft, not what the words on the agenda currently
>> say. But if not, I'm considering whether calling in 2 hours late is a
>> reasonable option.)
>> 
>> 
>> On 06/14/2013 08:20 PM, Ari Keränen wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Given the guidance from the RTCWEB WG chairs that the "no-plan"
>>> discussion should essentially happen at the RTCWEB WG, the MMUSIC
>>> interim meeting on June 17th will be focused on Plan A and Plan B. The
>>> goal of the meeting is to clarify what are the two different plans,
>>> what are their key differences and merits, and how can we select one
>>> to move forward with.
>>> 
>>> Here's the draft agenda:
>>> 
>>> 7:00 – 7:10 Agenda bash & Note takers
>>> 7:10 – 8:10 Plan A Presentation
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-plan-a-00
>>> (also http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00)
>>> 8:10 – 9:10 Plan B Presentation
>>>  http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00
>>> 9:10 – 9:50 Discussion on preferred approach
>>> 9:50 – 10:00 Wrap-Up & Next Steps
>>> 
>>> Note: All Times are Pacific Daylight Time (PDT)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The WebEx information for joining the meeting is available here:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg11488.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ari & Flemming (MMUSIC co-chairs)
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