Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com> Sat, 15 June 2013 15:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agenda
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+1 On Jun 15, 2013, at 7:11 AM, "Paul Kyzivat" <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > +1 > > On 6/15/13 5:39 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >> Not on A vs B, but on the agenda: >> >> This time allocation is: >> >> - 20 mins administrativia >> - 120 mins presentation >> - 40 mins discussion >> >> I do not think this is a wise allocation. It maximizes the time given to >> plan "owners" to present their viewpoints, and minimizes the time >> avaliable for people who do not "own a plan" to present a viewpoint. >> People who come to the meeting SHOULD have read the drafts beforehand. >> If not, listening to 60 mins of presentation won't make them understand >> the issues. >> >> I would suggest instead: >> >> - 10 min administrativia (agenda bash) >> - 15 min Plan A presentation >> - 15 min Plan A clarification questions >> - 15 min Plan B presentation >> - 15 min Plan B clarification questions >> - 10 min presentaton on "what questions do we need to answer" (by the >> chairs) >> - 90 min discussion on answering the questions (structured by the chairs) >> - 10 min administrativia (wrapup) >> >> (and yes, this is enough time that one could fit in a slot for "no plan" >> too) >> >> (I'm HOPING that the draft agenda is intended to show "presentation and >> discussion" for each draft, not what the words on the agenda currently >> say. But if not, I'm considering whether calling in 2 hours late is a >> reasonable option.) >> >> >> On 06/14/2013 08:20 PM, Ari Keränen wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Given the guidance from the RTCWEB WG chairs that the "no-plan" >>> discussion should essentially happen at the RTCWEB WG, the MMUSIC >>> interim meeting on June 17th will be focused on Plan A and Plan B. The >>> goal of the meeting is to clarify what are the two different plans, >>> what are their key differences and merits, and how can we select one >>> to move forward with. >>> >>> Here's the draft agenda: >>> >>> 7:00 – 7:10 Agenda bash & Note takers >>> 7:10 – 8:10 Plan A Presentation >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-plan-a-00 >>> (also http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-roach-rtcweb-glareless-add-00) >>> 8:10 – 9:10 Plan B Presentation >>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-uberti-rtcweb-plan-00 >>> 9:10 – 9:50 Discussion on preferred approach >>> 9:50 – 10:00 Wrap-Up & Next Steps >>> >>> Note: All Times are Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) >>> >>> >>> The WebEx information for joining the meeting is available here: >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/mmusic/current/msg11488.html >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ari & Flemming (MMUSIC co-chairs) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mmusic mailing list >>> mmusic@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mmusic mailing list >> mmusic@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic > > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic
- [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim agen… Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ari Keränen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Ted Hardie
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Mary Barnes
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Flemming Andreasen
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] MMUSIC WG June 17th virtual interim … Randell Jesup