Re: [MMUSIC] Draft new version: 8843bis-02

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Thu, 10 June 2021 14:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Draft new version: 8843bis-02
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Christer,

On 6/10/21 5:51 AM, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> Paul, are you happy with the way your comments have been addressed?

I have one remaining question:

The new section 7.3.5 is addressing the case where the offerer only 
support RFC8843 while the answerer supports 8842bis. In this case, what 
sort of answer should the answerer generate? Should it emulate RFC8843 
behavior? Do we understand what the impact will be if not?

	Thanks,
	Paul

> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
> *From:*mmusic <mmusic-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Christer Holmberg
> *Sent:* maanantai 7. kesäkuuta 2021 23.17
> *To:* mmusic@ietf.org
> *Cc:* mmusic-chairs@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [MMUSIC] Draft new version: 8843bis-02
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have submitted a new version (-02) of 8843bis.
> 
> Based on Paul’s comment, the latest version contains two new 
> sub-sections, 7.3.5 and 7.4.1, that in addition to describing the 
> differences from 8843 also include examples showing the differences.
> 
> Unless I have missed something, all WGLC comments should now have been 
> addressed.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Christer
> 
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