Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling
Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Wed, 17 July 2013 14:09 UTC
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From: Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
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Thread-Topic: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling
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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling
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On 7/15/13 9:06 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > [Cross-posting to RTCWEB; follow-ups to MMUSIC, please] > > After significant work, Justin, Martin and I have managed to produce a > compromise plan that provides a high degree of interoperability with > existing devices (and future non-WebRTC devices) while not being > excessively onerous for WebRTC implementations or applications that use > them. It's been a tricky balancing act, but I think we've found a good > mix between the two that can form a solid basis for the working group to > move forward. Thanks for doing this work, I hope that we now finally can get going on specifying this up (and I hope it won't take too long to do so!). I think this looks like a really good start, and there is a lot I like (e.g. the independent signaling per MediaStreamTrack). I have a couple of specific questions/comments, coming from a very WebRTC centric (sorry for that) perspective: * Simulcast: In the current API model, MediaStreamTrack is about the lowest you can get to. And the same source (camera, microphone) can source several MediaStreamTrack - and each of those can use individual constraints for width, height, framerate, etc. So in a WebRTC context, there seem to me we would not need the simulcast solution you have included. The different resolutions can be sent as different MediaStreamTrack's - meaning they would be separate m-lines. * Direction attribute: The current WebRTC API is "sender" oriented: the application can select MediaStream(Track)'s to send. Would it for WebRTC make sense to have all m-lines being unidirectional (send/recvonly)? (If they should be sendrecv we also need to specify when a return track should reuse an existing m-line, and when a new m-line should be created.) Stefan > > Rather than summarize the key points of the document in this email, I > direct interested parties to section 2 of the document, which summarizes > the key aspects of the plan in eight relatively concise bullet points. > > I apologize for the late publication date of this document -- there's > actually been a lot more work put into coming up with a unified draft > than I originally anticipated, and the production of this document took > at least two weeks longer than I expected it to. > > Note that this document is intended to be a plan for the work to be done > in this area, and not a specification in itself. The intention is that > its contents are used as the basis for work in several other drafts -- > some new, some not -- that form the corpus of work necessary for RTCWEB > (and potentially CLUE) to move forward. Except in rare cases, the > document does not attempt to explicitly call out venues or documents for > such work, as we (or, at the very least, I) anticipate guidance from the > various working group chairs to assist in such decisions. > > Comments prior to Berlin would be very helpful, although this will > clearly be a point of significant discussion at the face-to-face meeting. > > Document link: > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-roach-mmusic-unified-plan-00.txt > > /a > _______________________________________________ > mmusic mailing list > mmusic@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mmusic >
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Jonathan Lennox
- [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Unified Plan for SDP Handli… Roman Shpount
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Roni Even
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Emil Ivov
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Roni Even
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Stefan Håkansson LK
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Unified Plan for SDP Handli… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Unified Plan for SDP Handli… Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Adam Roach
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling - msid… Belling, Thomas (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling - msid… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling - msid… Belling, Thomas (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling - msid… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling - msid… Belling, Thomas (NSN - DE/Munich)
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Bernard Aboba
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Justin Uberti
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Cullen Jennings
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [MMUSIC] [rtcweb] Unified Plan for SDP Handli… Matt Fredrickson
- Re: [MMUSIC] Unified Plan for SDP Handling Stefan Håkansson LK